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Windows 7 - SSDs are fast, but do they last? |
07-30-2011
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#1 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1. |
SSDs are fast, but do they last? Quote: If you use a PC for professional purposes, you need a solid-state drive. Period. The difference in performance is profound, as just about any SSD owner will attest. The difference isn’t just faster startup and shutdown times, either. There’s a noticeable bump in speed and responsiveness for just about every common computing task.
SSDs are fast, but do they last? | ZDNet | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number LAPTOP. HP Pavilion dv7-4010TX . OS Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1. CPU Intel i7 -720QM.[1.6GHz Turbo Boost 2.8GHz. 6MB Cache.] Memory 8 DDR 3 RAM. 1066MHZ Graphics Card ATI 1024 MB. DDR3. Radeon HD5650 Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" High Definition Brightview LCD. LED Backlit. Screen Resolution 1600 x 900. Mouse Logitech Anywhere mouse. MX. Case Laptop / notebook. Hard Drives 640GB Internet Speed ADSL [ but too slow ] |
07-31-2011
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Not a bad read. The headline makes it sound like these drives are dangerous. The story however explains that the failure rates are pretty much inline with current mechanical hard drive failures. Thus, they aren't more dangerous and for the extra money you spend you get far better speeds.
I've got 2 systems with SSD's and both are running fine. Both are Intel SSD's. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/1 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
07-31-2011
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I just built a system and put a Raptor 150 in it for the OS. That didn't last through the updates to Windows. LOL
Having ran SSDs for the OS for the past two years I will never go back to a spinner, not even a quick raptor.
I have only had problems with 2 SSDs one an early vertex that was sent back on RMA and replaced by OCZ within a week and that early generation drive is still going strong.
The other was with a SATA III drive from OWC with the SF controller and it locked itself up in safe mode so it went back to OWC and I picked up an M4 Crucial which is really nice. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number My Build OS win7 Ult 64 CPU i7 3930K & 3960X Motherboard ASUS P9X79 Deluxe Memory 16GB G-Skill 2133MHz Graphics Card Sapphire HD 7970 Sound Card On-board Monitor(s) Displays ASUS 27 inch Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Mionix Mouse Mionix PSU Corsair AX1200 Case NZXT 810 Cooling Custom Loop, Swiftech HDBlock Hard Drives Crucial M4 256GB, 1.5TB WD Black for Data/Images Internet Speed Cable |
07-31-2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 CP x64 |
I find it difficult to use a non-SSD computer, everything is just too slow.
Won't be going back to a HDD based system.
Considering the 'do they last' question, there is an on-going SSD endurance test: SSD Write Endurance 25nm Vs 34nm
They are writing as fast as they can to see when they will fail.
Out of the 5 still testing, 4 have passed the manufacturer rated number of writes, most of them are rated below 200TB.
My first SSD is averaging 1TB writes per year, though I did reduce the amount of writes by moving some things to the HDD.
Even if you write 5TB a year it's rated around 40 years.
With some SSDs going to 5 year warranties, they are a safe investment.
As mentioned in the link, the failure rate isn't any worse than HDDs. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number 76~1.4 OS Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 CP x64 CPU Intel Core i5-750 3.84GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P, SATA 6Gb/s USB 3, f14 Memory 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 1600 Corsair Vengeance CL8 1.5v Graphics Card XFX HD 5770 1GB DDR5 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio ALC889 Integrated Chip Monitor(s) Displays 22" LCD Dell Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse CM Sentinel PSU Corsair HX650W Case Cooler Master Storm Scout Cooling Corsair H80 2x12cm Noctua NF P12 , 2x14cm case fans Hard Drives Intel X25 M 120GB SSD,
Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Internet Speed Dismal Other Info eSATA ports,
External eSATA Seagate 500GB SATA2 7200rpm,
External USB WD 500GB |
07-31-2011
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While I like my SSD, I'm still not in the camp yet that "won't use a computer without one". I have multiple computers that I use regularly without SSD's and I don't find them painful to use.
I'm pretty certain that my SSD will last far longer than I am ever going to want to use it. When I buy a computer component, I need 2-3 years and I will most likely move to something else. I'm pretty sure I'll replace my 80GB Intel with something faster, and bigger in less than 3 years time. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/1 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
07-31-2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Thanks for the article Jan.
I think its kind of too early to do any real comparisons between the fail rates of SSD's vs spinners considering the relative short time SSD's have been around, and the fact that they are just now beginning to see mainstream use. For me the book is still open. However I've had no issues during the 8 months I've had my SSD drive.
Something else I'd like to point out - from some of the stuff I've read and heard some of the failures can be attributed to user error (excessive benchmarking). All we have to do is look at this thread ( Show us your SSD performance) and you'll see some users obsessed with wringing every ounce of performance out of their SSD..... to the point of continuous benchmarking. This can obviously lead to degradation and failure.
While we all want to know what our PC is capable of ( I do) but constant testing is bound to cause degradation or failure.
My two cents. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory Corsair Dominator -TR3X6G1600C8D (6GB - 3X2GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB). Storage - One 1TB WD Caviar Black, One 750 WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
07-31-2011
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Looks like an advert to me. They expected everyone to go out and buy one for their computer. Only problem is the stats don't rack up. So, their not worth it. | My System Specs | | |
07-31-2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Runckle_SP1 Looks like an advert to me. They expected everyone to go out and buy one for their computer. Only problem is the stats don't rack up. So, their not worth it. Where'd you read that???
If you want to argue pricing is a little steep, OK. However performance wise.... they're very much worth it.
And trust me pricing was an issue for me as well until they started dropping. I'll also tell you that nothing you do to your PC will give you the performance boost an SSD drive will.
My two cents. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory Corsair Dominator -TR3X6G1600C8D (6GB - 3X2GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB). Storage - One 1TB WD Caviar Black, One 750 WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
07-31-2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit |
Thanks for that link. - An interesting read.
I have yet to go with an SSD - primarily due to longevity concerns. This sheds some light on the matter. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit CPU Intel QX9650 - Mild Overclock to 3.5Ghz Motherboard ASUS P5Q SE Plus Memory 16GB G.Skill F2-6400 at 840Mhz Graphics Card nVidia Ge Force 9600GT Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays HP w2408h Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackball M570 PSU Antec Basiq BP500U Case CoolerMaster ATX ATC-210 Cooling Non-Stock Heatsink w/high speed CPU fan Hard Drives CRUCIAL M4 128Gb SSD, --
Two - WDC WD1001FALS-00J7B0 SATA's, -- One
WDC WD2001FASS-00U0B0 SATA |
07-31-2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 CP x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 
Quote: Originally Posted by Runckle_SP1 Looks like an advert to me. They expected everyone to go out and buy one for their computer. Only problem is the stats don't rack up. So, their not worth it. Where'd you read that???
If you want to argue pricing is a little steep, OK. However performance wise.... they're very much worth it.
And trust me pricing was an issue for me as well until they started dropping. I'll also tell you that nothing you do to your PC will give you the performance boost an SSD drive will.
My two cents. +1, couldn't agree more, you can argue the price point but, definitely not the performance or longevity.
At my estimated maximum writing of maybe 2TB per year, the rated life from the manufacturer which is very conservative, is 90+ years. 
Quote: Originally Posted by TBoyd Thanks for that link. - An interesting read.
I have yet to go with an SSD - primarily due to longevity concerns. This sheds some light on the matter. Check the link in my previous post.
There are other endurance tests that reported 1PB (1,000 TB) of writes, the reason for stopping was not clear as it was a translation.
It appears to be that after writing to the drive for a year, they just gave up.
The ability of SSDs to perform writes has been grossly under estimated. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number 76~1.4 OS Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 CP x64 CPU Intel Core i5-750 3.84GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P, SATA 6Gb/s USB 3, f14 Memory 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 1600 Corsair Vengeance CL8 1.5v Graphics Card XFX HD 5770 1GB DDR5 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio ALC889 Integrated Chip Monitor(s) Displays 22" LCD Dell Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse CM Sentinel PSU Corsair HX650W Case Cooler Master Storm Scout Cooling Corsair H80 2x12cm Noctua NF P12 , 2x14cm case fans Hard Drives Intel X25 M 120GB SSD,
Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Internet Speed Dismal Other Info eSATA ports,
External eSATA Seagate 500GB SATA2 7200rpm,
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