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Windows 7: Microsoft Demos Windows 8 Boot Speed

13 Sep 2011   #21
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Of course they are using a wipe bass laptop. It won't be long and many will have one like it. The computer world is going forward as it has always done. I want Windows 8. I will learn Windows 8. It will work great on my new build. (See my specs.)


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13 Sep 2011   #22
legacy7955

win 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

I wondering when the SSD will start to become the standard on OEM PCs it seems like it should have started to happen by now. You'd at least think they would be making the SSD an option when configuring systems at HP, Dell, Lenovo, ...and not just on the highest end business units either.
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13 Sep 2011   #23
gautam7

windows 7 ultimate 32 bit
 
 

My old laptop wont be able to handle windows 8 i guess even though MS keep telling it will support older pc.
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13 Sep 2011   #24
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
I wondering when the SSD will start to become the standard on OEM PCs it seems like it should have started to happen by now. You'd at least think they would be making the SSD an option when configuring systems at HP, Dell, Lenovo, ...and not just on the highest end business units either.
Really, I got a fairly recent high end sony laptop and everything about it is screaming except the complete POS 5400RPM drive. It drags the entire machine down and makes it seem like it's 5 years old

I'd replace the drive with an SSD this second but there is so much specialized hardware I'm really not sure I could get the thing completely functional if I reinstall W7 from scratch.
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13 Sep 2011   #25
legacy7955

win 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fseal View Post
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Really, I got a fairly recent high end sony laptop and everything about it is screaming except the complete POS 5400RPM drive. It drags the entire machine down and makes it seem like it's 5 years old

I'd replace the drive with an SSD this second but there is so much specialized hardware I'm really not sure I could get the thing completely functional if I reinstall W7 from scratch.

I'm glad you brought up the HDD rpm speed issue.

I have noticed that over the past year or two, it seems that the OEMs are trying to hide the rpm spec of their HDD hardware. I have always looked for this and you literally can't find it with many offerings today, although you easily could a few years ago. I wonder why.

I think the slowest that should be on offer today in mid line OEMs should be 7200, with 10000 being in high line units ...But you don't see 10k rpm units in most OEM units at all. Strange since I doubt that it costs anything more than a few pennies to add that slight increase in speed. Seems like greed is a factor to me.
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13 Sep 2011   #26
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

It's slightly more than a few pennies. Between the spindle speeds and cache you are correct we should all watch when purchasing a system for 7200 min. rpm and a min. 32 cache with a preference for 10,000 rpm and 64 cache. I imagine that to most purchasers they strictly look for hdd capacity and that's it.
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13 Sep 2011   #27
legacy7955

win 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

Since the topic of rpms came up I also always wondered how the size of the hdd factors into the equation. I would guess that a smaller storage size would offer faster reaction to inputs as well right ...eg...a 500GB hdd running at 7200 would be quicker to service inputs opposed to one that was 1TB...right?

Or how about this scenario a 250 GB hdd running at 5400 rpm would carry out operations faster than one with 1TB at 7200 rpm?

Anyone care to elaborate on this aspect of how quick hdds perform operations concerning this aspect?
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13 Sep 2011   #28
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Hmmm, I'd guess that higher density platters should be faster actually. You get twice the data per revolution off the disk for a 2x density increase. THough there is a tendency for higher density disks to be lower spindle speeds. Getting data written at a high density to a high speed disk is quite a chore.

Of course those high performance drives would kill battery time. Really, any laptop that costs 1500 or more should come with an SSD boot drive at this point. You could have a 100,000rpm spinner and it will never come close to the snappiness of an SSD. Photoshop loads in 2 seconds on my desktop and takes 15+ seconds on my laptop even when the CPUs are pretty close in performance. It is 100% the Spinners fault and a 10k spinner might get that down to all of 13 seconds :/
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19 Sep 2011   #29
arkhi

Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fseal View Post
Will we have instant on BIOSes as the norm by then too? Or is that just a pipe dream
Actually, it's called UEFI, and it's getting there While not quite instant, about 2 seconds should be good enough, right?
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28 Sep 2011   #30
toughbook

 
 

If we can't be happy with a 30 sec boot with a SSD then we are really spoiled. I'm always amazed at my 20 to 30 second boots. Although, I only boot when asked to by the OS.
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