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Windows 7: The Last Days of Windows 7

05 Dec 2011   #271
JerometheGiraff

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

I read two features that may me realize that Microsoft is watching Linux. Windows8 will run on 300 Megs of Memory. That tells me that after 7 versions of Windows they finally optimized the code especially after Vista was bloatware, which is a positive direction. Another is that you can Live Boot Windows8, yet another Linux feature. And finally windows wants to separate them-self from the traditional start button U.I, hence the Metro look, which they should stick with on future versions of Windows. There is one thing that Windows is missing, team up with Linux and introduce a altered core of Windows and that core being Linux.


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05 Dec 2011   #272
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

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As to the debate between the relevant differences between Windows and Linux, allow me to add my feelings.....
I have never used Linux and know little about it. I have seen Mandrake, Red Hat and other forms of Linux. How do they differ?
Hi there
Red Hat -- now corporate only but they do support FEDORA.
Most distributions employ the SAME kernel -- the main differences are

1) the choice of GUI you have (if you want to use a GUI at all)

2) Package manager used to compile / install / maintain software -- this mechanism can vary greatly but essentially there are 2 main systems -- one based on Red Hat (RPM --Red Hat package manager) -- distros like Fedora, Mandrake and Suse all use variants of this, and the other (Apt Get) based on variants of DEBIAN / SLACKWARE are used in Gentoo (popular linux often used as the small kernel for stand alone bootable products like acronis or partition manager) and Ubuntu.

(It's not actually as simple as that but conceptually that's how it works. The Kernel is basically the same but some of the add on bits and pieces are different as well as mechanisms for installing and maintaining the system).

Things move fast in Linux -- I rarely update software between releases so package manager systems might have changed -- to me I use Linux for running Virtual servers so I rarely need to update the system as I'm not running any "ordinary desktop" type software.


In general a user familar with one distro can easily use another -- terminal commands and scripts are almost identical -- some of the directories might be named a little differently such as one distro might have non system commands in a directory called /opt while another it might be in /user. The actual command and script would be very similar though.

Finally since most Linux software packages are available as SOURCE it's often possible simply to download the SOURCE component and simply compile it so it should work whtever distro you have (In theory --wish it was always so easy --however most of the time it does work assuming correct versions of libraries etc).

As a Linux user you have to be prepared to do a lot more work than as a Windows user -- rarely will you get a nice equivalent to an .EXE or .MSI install file.

cheers
jimbo
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05 Dec 2011   #273
FranzB

Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit, Linux Mint Julia, in dual boot mode
 
 

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As to the debate between the relevant differences between Windows and Linux, allow me to add my feelings.....
I have never used Linux and know little about it. I have seen Mandrake, Red Hat and other forms of Linux. How do they differ?
Four words with a question mark and you can spend days reading up on it!
From a practical point of view have a look at, e.g.
The best Linux distro of 2011! | TuxRadar Linux
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05 Dec 2011   #274
Maguscreed

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JerometheGiraff View Post
I read two features that may me realize that Microsoft is watching Linux. Windows8 will run on 300 Megs of Memory. That tells me that after 7 versions of Windows they finally optimized the code especially after Vista was bloatware, which is a positive direction. Another is that you can Live Boot Windows8, yet another Linux feature. And finally windows wants to separate them-self from the traditional start button U.I, hence the Metro look, which they should stick with on future versions of Windows. There is one thing that Windows is missing, team up with Linux and introduce a altered core of Windows and that core being Linux.
This is for the sole reason that it's meant to be used on windows phones.
1 gig as a base requirement would be too much.
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05 Dec 2011   #275
legacy7955

win 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

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There is one thing that Windows is missing, team up with Linux and introduce a altered core of Windows and that core being Linux.
Yep.

Linux is the answer.
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05 Dec 2011   #276
Maguscreed

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 x64
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JerometheGiraff View Post

There is one thing that Windows is missing, team up with Linux and introduce a altered core of Windows and that core being Linux.
Yep.

Linux is the answer.

Must have been one messed up question.
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05 Dec 2011   #277
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Terminal here we come

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There is one thing that Windows is missing, team up with Linux and introduce a altered core of Windows and that core being Linux.
Yep.

Linux is the answer.
You'd better brush up on your CLI skills then.

Linux GUI tools are awful.
Nautilus is better than Windows Explorer in several ways (tabs, multi-level copy/cut/paste) but it is still more painful to use.
Try viewing an image's dimensions in Nautilus.
You have to open the "Properties" window to do it (using Gnome 2.xx anyway).

Linux media players are worse, than Windows media players.
IMO the Windows media players aren't that good either, just slightly better than the Linux ones.
Why are media players so awful?

This year, Ubuntu has been twitchier than W7 (on my PC).

It has self-destructed 3 times (requiring HDD re-imaging):
  • It deleted its own GUI config files (totally obliterated).
  • It deleted its own Network config files (totally obliterated).
  • It claimed that /etc/fstab was missing, so it wouldn't boot (it was present - I checked using a Live CD).
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05 Dec 2011   #278
ziggie

windows 7 home premium 64bit
 
 

Gads, I haven't totally moved to win 7 yet, I'm having trouble leaving XP pro
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06 Dec 2011   #279
Vince53

Windows 7 Home Basic, 64 bit
 
 

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Gads, I haven't totally moved to win 7 yet, I'm having trouble leaving XP pro
It;s okay, Ziggie. XP does most of what most people need.

I've installed three different versions of Linux on three different machines. At best, I found them to be as good as the current versions of Windows in certain areas, but worse in others. Less than 1% of all computers use Linux as their primary operating system. As a secondary OS on a partitioned drive, it's interesting to play with, though.
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06 Dec 2011   #280
ziggie

windows 7 home premium 64bit
 
 

XP was released around 2002 didn't it, wow, short run for Windows 7
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