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Windows 7: Hard Disk Drive turns 55

04 Oct 2011   #11
Phone Man

Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
 
 

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Some early hard disks were referred to as "winchester" disks. ...Rich
Winchester was the project name for the IBM 3340 disk drive. It was so-named because each of it's 2 disk packs could hold 30MB of data making it a 30-30, just like a Winchester rifle.
I have one of those. Not the disk drive but a Winchester 30-30. Sweet rifle.

Jim


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04 Oct 2011   #12
Jaime74656

Windows 10 64bit Ultimate
 
 

I remember when 4 GB was the hot thing lol I was maybe 8 years about and I was still messen with my dads 386 which still worked up till last year!
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04 Oct 2011   #13
strollin

W10 Pro desktop, W10 laptop, W10 laptop, W10 Pro tablet (all 64-bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by msdos622wasfun View Post
I can't even imagine what they would have stored on those things back then. I mean, today, 5 MB doesn't hold much, unless you're talking about the phone numbers and addresses of all your customers and not much else, so if you were a large business, wouldn't that pretty much eat up all that space just for that purpose? A Word document with the word "Hello" takes up 12.3 KB of space. In 5 MB, you could store roughly 400 of those.
Yes, but things are different today with WYSIWYG graphics in Word and such. Back then everything was plain text so 5M could hold lots more data.
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04 Oct 2011   #14
Gator

Dual Boot: Windows 8.1 & Server 2012r2 VMs: Kali Linux, Backbox, Matriux, Windows 8.1
 
 

I remember my first computer used a real floppy disk and we had no games. If you wanted a game you had to read the manual and create your own. The manual was a binder about the size of a cinder block and that enabled you to create a game with a cursor and a bunch of lines. lol
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05 Oct 2011   #15
Corazon

Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit
 
 

I remember having an Amiga 500 with two floppy drives (one internal, one external). One day I got my first-ever harddrive...a whopping 85MB Quantum SCSI. I was blown away by the 900KB/sec transfer speed!

And I didn't have a CD writer (I did get a CD-ROM drive later, for hundreds of $...it was a top-of-the-line quad-speed) or a tape backup station, so I made my backups to floppy disks.
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05 Oct 2011   #16
kado897

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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by msdos622wasfun View Post
I can't even imagine what they would have stored on those things back then. I mean, today, 5 MB doesn't hold much, unless you're talking about the phone numbers and addresses of all your customers and not much else, so if you were a large business, wouldn't that pretty much eat up all that space just for that purpose? A Word document with the word "Hello" takes up 12.3 KB of space. In 5 MB, you could store roughly 400 of those.
This lack of space of course was the reason for the Y2K problem. Every byte mattered.
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05 Oct 2011   #17
strollin

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by msdos622wasfun View Post
I can't even imagine what they would have stored on those things back then. I mean, today, 5 MB doesn't hold much, unless you're talking about the phone numbers and addresses of all your customers and not much else, so if you were a large business, wouldn't that pretty much eat up all that space just for that purpose? A Word document with the word "Hello" takes up 12.3 KB of space. In 5 MB, you could store roughly 400 of those.
This lack of space of course was the reason for the Y2K problem. Every byte mattered.
That's true but I think it was more due to not having excess core memory for running programs rather than disk space that made it so programmers only used 2 digits to express the year. The mainframe computers back then had far less memory than the average desktop (heck, most phones have more memory) of today.
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05 Oct 2011   #18
CyberZeus

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 clean install
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Corazon View Post
I remember having an Amiga 500 with two floppy drives (one internal, one external). One day I got my first-ever harddrive...a whopping 85MB Quantum SCSI. I was blown away by the 900KB/sec transfer speed!

And I didn't have a CD writer (I did get a CD-ROM drive later, for hundreds of $...it was a top-of-the-line quad-speed) or a tape backup station, so I made my backups to floppy disks.
My first HD had 10 MB of space. A lot of space in those years (25 / 28 years ago)...
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05 Oct 2011   #19
kado897

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I can't even imagine what they would have stored on those things back then. I mean, today, 5 MB doesn't hold much, unless you're talking about the phone numbers and addresses of all your customers and not much else, so if you were a large business, wouldn't that pretty much eat up all that space just for that purpose? A Word document with the word "Hello" takes up 12.3 KB of space. In 5 MB, you could store roughly 400 of those.
This lack of space of course was the reason for the Y2K problem. Every byte mattered.
That's true but I think it was more due to not having excess core memory for running programs rather than disk space that made it so programmers only used 2 digits to express the year. The mainframe computers back then had far less memory than the average desktop (heck, most phones have more memory) of today.
You are right of course. If I remember correctly, in the early 80's, I think our IBM mainframe was running on 256MB.
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05 Oct 2011   #20
maxseven

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 6.1 Build 7601 (SP1)
 
 

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My first HD had 10 MB of space. A lot of space in those years (25 / 28 years ago)...
I think we paid over a grand for the 20Mb Apple external add-on HDD for my wife's Mac back in the early 80s. That was a lot of storage, even for a Macintosh!

My first "PC" was the IMSAI 8080 kit I built myself around 1975; a 16K RAM card cost me over $750. You read that right--16Kilobytes!
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