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Windows 7: Bulldozer is out and it sucks

14 Oct 2011   #41
1foxracing

Windows 7 Pro 64bit
 
 

Thank you Gentlemen, The 560 it will be then.


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14 Oct 2011   #42
UberlegenKlient

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

I'm very dissapointed, but I'm still building, I already have all the parts. I like the fact that it's a forward looking design. AMD gave up a lot of die area for these new instruction sets, which very few apps are using yet. Also it's worth noting that Windows 8 does a much better job with scheduling. With Win7 the OS has no idea each module is two cores sharing resources.

Honestly the only thing that has me concerned is the outragous power consumption when overclocked, though I don't intend to.

Anyway I'm still building, but the chip will be on sale the moment Piledriver comes. If AMD doesn't get its act together, or if nobody other than Microsoft winds up supporting the architecture more in the future, I'll move on.

The chip does very well in modern threaded apps, which is what I wanted.
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14 Oct 2011   #43
omegaman7

Windows 7 Ultimate X64
 
 

A few sites (Like hardwareheaven) have suggested that coding will benefit the bulldozer further. E.g. windows 8 will address what windows 7 does not. I wonder just how much of a performance gain it will be though. Remember, Bulldozer is a new architecture. And it's limited to outdated coding, eh?
While I'm disappointed at the reviews I'm reading(2600K is tempting), I must wait a few months and see what happens. I will not judge Bulldozer so soon. After all, bios updates may effect the bulldozer as well

Hardwareheaven review

Basically, windows 8 handles multithreaded tasks better.
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14 Oct 2011   #44
Phone Man

Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
Here is a price comparison from Newegg. I am building a new rig so the wife can have my old one. I am sticking with AMD with an ASUS AM3+ MB and may just go with the PII X6 1100T with discount price of $175. I then can see what will happen down the road so I am leaving my upgrade options open for the next couple years. Was really hoping Bulldozer was better then it is, but the thermals are way out of whack. I guess that is why AMD is offering a water cooler ($100).

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Rest of my parts arrive today. I went with an ASUS AM3+ board with the 990x chip set. (M5A99x EVO) and the PHII X6 1100T which was $175. The BD FX-8150 was $100 more and not worth the price. I can still upgrade to the BD if they get them running right or the Piledriver when it comes out. I got the new Corsair 400R case and it is really nice. Got it from Newegg for $89.99 (after $10 rebate) and free shipping.

Jim
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14 Oct 2011   #45
Beta

Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 and Mac OS X 10.8.3
 
 

AMD Bulldozer FX 8150 chip benchmarked

Asus Crosshair IV Formula works with AM3+. This is the first report that I have been able to see that shows that the AM3+ chip works in a AM3 socket.
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14 Oct 2011   #46
omegaman7

Windows 7 Ultimate X64
 
 

I would be concerned that an AM3 socket may not fully support the AM3+ potential. As it were...
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15 Oct 2011   #47
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

I was pleased to find out my MSI 890 mobo will take the bulldozer without issue. So I will wait and bid my time as I'm not about first adoption.
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15 Oct 2011   #48
Beta

Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 and Mac OS X 10.8.3
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere View Post
I was pleased to find out my MSI 890 mobo will take the bulldozer without issue. So I will wait and bid my time as I'm not about first adoption.
I never said that the MSI MB would work. This is the only report of it working. Many other MB's have been tested to no luck.
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15 Oct 2011   #49
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

Beta,
Not sure if you think I was rebuking your statement, I wasn't. I'm just saying I was pleased to find out that the MSI 890 mobo will support the FX cpu's as up that point I understood that an upgrade to 990 series was needed.
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15 Oct 2011   #50
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

The Bulldozer became a budget cpu because it works like a budget cpu. In some cases not even that good. Hang around the price will drop even more unless their is fix. The question in my mine is why buy the Big Dog in town when it can't growl only whimper.
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