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Windows 7 - On consumer PCs, crapware is still a performance-sapping nuisance |
12-05-2011
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#1 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1. |
On consumer PCs, crapware is still a performance-sapping nuisance Quote:
On consumer PCs, crapware is still a performance-sapping nuisance
Summary: Are PC makers finally getting the message that their customers don’t want crapware? A close look at three consumer PCs delivers a mixed answer.
The weakest link in the PC ecosystem is, without a doubt, the one right before the hardware reaches your desk.
That’s the conclusion I’ve drawn over the past two months as I’ve compared three pairs of modern PCs. What made this experiment especially interesting was comparing the software installations provided by the PC manufacturers with a clean alternative called Microsoft Signature, which is available only through the Microsoft Store.
On consumer PCs, crapware is still a performance-sapping nuisance | ZDNet | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number LAPTOP. HP Pavilion dv7-4010TX . OS Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1. CPU Intel i7 -720QM.[1.6GHz Turbo Boost 2.8GHz. 6MB Cache.] Memory 8 DDR 3 RAM. 1066MHZ Graphics Card ATI 1024 MB. DDR3. Radeon HD5650 Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" High Definition Brightview LCD. LED Backlit. Screen Resolution 1600 x 900. Mouse Logitech Anywhere mouse. MX. Case Laptop / notebook. Hard Drives 640GB Internet Speed ADSL [ but too slow ] |
12-05-2011
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#2 | | windows 7 x64 Home Premium |
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number me / #1 OS windows 7 x64 Home Premium CPU intel q6600 Motherboard gigbyte ga ep45 ud3l Memory g.skill 8gb ddr2 1066 (pc2 8500) Graphics Card evga geforce 9800 gtx 512 mb Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Case smilodon (yes, t'was the pretty blue lites that got me!) Hard Drives wd caviar black 500 gb
wd caviar black 1tb
wd elements 1tb external hd x2 |
12-06-2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by stevieray An excellent tool, but: - Nothing beats a clean OS installation done right. (Just ask gregrocker LOL)
- How many consumers even know about PC Decrapifier, let alone understand its purpose? Not too many, that's the problem.
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom-built OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz, overclocked to 2.7GHz Motherboard Asus PL5D2 Memory 3GB DDR2-667 (2x1GB + 2x512MB in dual-channel config) Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card on-board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2261 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 (DVI) Keyboard Standard Mouse Microsoft wireless optical mouse PSU Antec TruePower 2.0 Case Cooler Master Centurion Cooling various fans Hard Drives OCZ SSD Vertex Plus 60GB SATA (Firmware 3.55), 64MB cache
Hitachi HD321KJ SATA, 320GB, 7200rpm, 16MB cache Internet Speed DSL; ~700KB/sec down, ~65KB/sec up Other Info Have a laptop too :) (Compaq CQ60 also with Win7 Pro SP1 32-bit)
Drives in both systems:
C: - Windows 7 + apps. Pagefile is fixed size and located at the very end of the partition.
D: - various temp files/cache for Firefox and apps/games.
E: - videos, music, misc. storage, torrent downloads, etc. |
12-06-2011
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#4 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi |
Hi all
Even though you don't unfortunately get the OS disk any more I've long since campaigned for the bog standard OS (OEM version you've paid for with the PC) to be at least supplied either on the HDD or in it's own partition.
You've paid for the windows OS --although an OEM one --and since the machines are sysprepped we won't ever get back to the days where the OS (OEM version) was included with the machine. However you should still get the basic OS --You've PAID for it !!!!.
If you actually go to a store however you can usually get a RETAIL copy of the OS thrown in if you do a little bit of haggling --at worst they can only say no so you haven't lost anything at all by asking. These days in the current economic climate they will gladly throw in a copy of Windows 7 Home Premium with a PC rather than see you leave the store with nothing -- they are STILL making money on the deal !!.
(You can then do an anytime upgrade if you want Windows 7 professional / Ultimate later).
Then when you get home --image the PC with the standard utility that you will be asked for --so if you get a problem you can restore the factory state -- then WIPE the disk clean and re-install from the RETAIL OS that you got.
You might have to load a few drivers after boot but you should be up and running with a nice squeaky clean system.
IMO this approach is far far better than messing around with things like "De crapifier" and if you need to re-install then you've got the Windows 7 install disk (or image).
Cheers
jimbo
Last edited by jimbo45; 12-06-2011 at 08:42 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi CPU Q9400 QUAD Motherboard P5QL-CM Memory 8GB Graphics Card On Motherborad Sound Card Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Apple Cinema display Mouse Toshiba wireless laser Hard Drives 4 X 1TB SATA Internet Speed > 20MB up |
12-06-2011
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I've honestly not found that uninstalling the crapware is really all that difficult. We performance enthusiasts would rather have a clean install, no doubt about it. But most others would rather have the lowest cost period...and if that means having a few extras installed, or a little bit of effort removing what isn't needed...then so be it.
From a support standpoint, I think it would be easier for the Dell's and HP's of the world to support people who are using a common install. It's far easier for them to support, which technically based on the OEM license they have to support rather than MS. Thus, I can really see them wanting consumers on their load and if trouble ensues that the system restore is completed to put it back just the way it was.
For those who don't know tools like PC Decrapifier exist, do you think they are the type who want to take a standard issue OEM or Retail copy of Windows and actually load their own OS? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/1 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
12-06-2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 For those who don't know tools like PC Decrapifier exist, do you think they are the type who want to take a standard issue OEM or Retail copy of Windows and actually load their own OS? No, of course not. That's the whole point here. Users who don't have much knowledge of how everything works, and consequently, what to do when trouble arises, shouldn't have to accept a crapware-laden OS to begin with (and be led to believe that's the only way they get the OS at all). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom-built OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz, overclocked to 2.7GHz Motherboard Asus PL5D2 Memory 3GB DDR2-667 (2x1GB + 2x512MB in dual-channel config) Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card on-board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2261 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 (DVI) Keyboard Standard Mouse Microsoft wireless optical mouse PSU Antec TruePower 2.0 Case Cooler Master Centurion Cooling various fans Hard Drives OCZ SSD Vertex Plus 60GB SATA (Firmware 3.55), 64MB cache
Hitachi HD321KJ SATA, 320GB, 7200rpm, 16MB cache Internet Speed DSL; ~700KB/sec down, ~65KB/sec up Other Info Have a laptop too :) (Compaq CQ60 also with Win7 Pro SP1 32-bit)
Drives in both systems:
C: - Windows 7 + apps. Pagefile is fixed size and located at the very end of the partition.
D: - various temp files/cache for Firefox and apps/games.
E: - videos, music, misc. storage, torrent downloads, etc. All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:04 PM. |  |