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I was going to call out the irony of PC World complaining about Microsoft not allowing free upgrades, as the PC World near me charge extortionate prices, but then I saw it was the American PC World, so I let them off :p

I got Windows 7 installed last night, and I'm not having any problems with it. I'm quite happy with the beta really.
 

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Everlong18 said:
I was going to call out the irony of PC World complaining about Microsoft not allowing free upgrades, as the PC World near me charge extortionate prices, but then I saw it was the American PC World, so I let them off :p

I got Windows 7 installed last night, and I'm not having any problems with it. I'm quite happy with the beta really.
Click to expand...

lmao they no matter where they still charge too much which is why i moved to digital media...:p

well everyone wants something cheaper right?
 

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IDK HP Motherboard / Intel DG965SS
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love my wacom pen and pressure sensitivity...
wished it worked in 7, SUSE for that matter though
PC World said:
The Spoiler

Microsoft doesn't know how to manage digital downloads. Nor does Microsoft know how to title its own applications--this isn't Windows 7, not by any means. It's Windows Vista SP2
Click to expand...

I almost quit reading there... FOR GOD SAKE! WHEN WILL THEY EVER LEARN THAT Win7 =/= VISTA!!!!!

EDIT

PC World said:
Installing Windows 7 (x64) brought a tear to my eye [...] [...] I'm also running a pretty souped-up PC--a stock-clocked Intel QX9650 running at 3.0GHz, four gigabytes of RAM, a speedy Western Digital terabyte hard drive, and an ATI Radeon HD 4850 video card.
Click to expand...

4GB of RAM? get 8. x64 will run WAY faster than that.

EDIT 2

I stopped reading at the beginning of page 2... that guy annoys me. A LOT.
 

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One could make the same argument for every incremental OS X release, that the marginal improvements of any single feature might or might not be worthy of an upgrade. There might not be a killer app for everyone.

But the sum of the parts make for a better whole, and the user experience as a result of the sum of the parts make it worthwhile, and supporting/maintaining that user experience is easier since you don't have to manage lots of little third party apps to get a similar experience.
 

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Dell XPS 420
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Windows 7 Beta Build 7100 x86
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
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Intel G35
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3GB DDR2-800
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nVidia GeForce 9600 GT
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Onboard SPDIF
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Panasonic TH-50PZ800U
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1920x1080
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Hitachi 320GB
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I wish it was Vista SP2.
 

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Win 10 Pro 64
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Intel Core i7 960 @3.20 GHz
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MSI MS7522
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24.0 GB DDR3
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EVGA GTX 750Ti
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LG E2341 23 Inch
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1TB Western Dgital 1002FAEX-00Y9A0
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700 Watt
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Haf 912
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Logitech MK710
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Logitech M705
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AIS 2015 .10.0.2225
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Firefox 49
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MalwareBytes Anti-Rootkit utility

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Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard
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i just dont know where he gets that a Service pack would get UI changes new user features and such....

SP1 and SP2 (and now SP3) did not bring significant changes to the table like Windows 7 does....

damm most people dont even remember the Win Nt days.....:eek:
 

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love my wacom pen and pressure sensitivity...
wished it worked in 7, SUSE for that matter though
by this logic Ford owes me a brand new pickup truck...

after all the Ranger 2009 is only an upgrade on a 2005, right?

and that chocolate milk I half drank, the dairy oughta give me a new one free cuz it's really the same thing only fresher, so why should I have to pay for it?

Msongs
 

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antec 182
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5 MB
David Murphy is a freaking whiner. Obviously he's never used OS X with it's almost annual updates sold as a new OS. There are more changes between Vista and Seven then there are between Tiger and Leopard, or any of the .+1 versions of OS X. All Microsoft needs now are some cute commercials and everyone will love them.
 

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4 GB
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I am willing to bet that Vista is going to be cheaper *from the initial launch* by $100 or more.

You have it in writing now.
 

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Hmm,

The way I read it is this

1. He likes the improvements - he praises them quite a lot.

2. He is not sure they are worth shelling out hundreds of dollars for.

He probably will get it - he's an enthusiast, like us. He probably overegged it to make a point.

The point is most people are not enthusisats - they won't want to shell again for an o/s - many of them will have only had Vista a short time - it will ship on new machines till 7 comes out.

Once 7 is released, it will replace replace Vista on new machines - by default it will sell a lot.

Vista sales will be dead in the water, as John says. Vista will continue to get security updates from M$ - but there won't be any real improvements/upgrades.

SIW2
 

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    7 X64
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    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
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    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i

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    7x64
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    g5400
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    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
to me vista was more of a stepping stone....

something that was already destined to happen..

i mean this by saying that because like i said i see vista more of like nextstep (this was the gap between Mac OS 9 and OSX).....

this needed to happen since they the hardware industry needed the boost so that there would be demand for higher technologies (such as touch for example or a IGP that can actually be usuable for gaming [to a point i might add..lol])

my two cents (have a dime now...)
 

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Tx2500z Tablet Pc/Homemade Server
OS
Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
CPU
Turion X2 ultra (oh well came with laptop)/P4 @3.2 (yes P4)
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IDK HP Motherboard / Intel DG965SS
Memory
OCZ Dual Channel 4GB kit/ 1gb Dual Channel
Graphics Card(s)
HD 3200 graphics /GMA x3100 (yay for intergrated!!)
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio(mic working, well sort of)/Siig IC-70012
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built-in Hp 12" laptop screen/ Acer 19"
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1280x800 /1440x900
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All Air Cooled
Mouse
Logi MX Rev. /MS Wheel Optical 1.1A /Logitech Optical Mouse
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College baby but its still routed through vpn to 1536k...
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love my wacom pen and pressure sensitivity...
wished it worked in 7, SUSE for that matter though
I think I'm going to side with the people saying he's sort of a whiner. Not in a horrible way, but a whiner none the less. I had a hard time respecting the article after he mentioned having a difficult time finding a replacement for Daemon Tools. Although I was disappointed to find that DT wasn't functional in 7, it took me about 5 seconds to find a very functional (and free) replacement. But maybe I'm just being a judgmental POS. Like my friend above said, that just my two cents! ;)
 

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Windows 7
OS
Windows 7
In reference to that article, I'm going to quote my favourite Looney Tune, Bugs Bunny: "What a maroon!"
 

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Windows 7 Professional 32-bit SP1AMD A4/A63.00GB EDOVMware SVGA 3D
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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Virtual Machine
OS
Windows 7 Professional 32-bit SP1
CPU
AMD A4/A6
Motherboard
Intel Corporation 440BX Desktop Reference Platform
Memory
3.00GB EDO
Graphics Card(s)
VMware SVGA 3D
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
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Generic Non-PnP Monitor on VMware SVGA 3D
Screen Resolution
1440x900
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1 x 60GB VMware Virtual SATA Hard Drive ATA Device
Antivirus
Kaspersky Total Security
From that same article, David Murphy's last sentence is this:

As for me? I think I'll go back to Vista for now...
Click to expand...

Isn't this the same guy that said "I think I'll be going back to XP now..."???
 

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Windows 7 Professional 32-bit SP1AMD A4/A63.00GB EDOVMware SVGA 3D
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Virtual Machine
OS
Windows 7 Professional 32-bit SP1
CPU
AMD A4/A6
Motherboard
Intel Corporation 440BX Desktop Reference Platform
Memory
3.00GB EDO
Graphics Card(s)
VMware SVGA 3D
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic Non-PnP Monitor on VMware SVGA 3D
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
1 x 60GB VMware Virtual SATA Hard Drive ATA Device
Antivirus
Kaspersky Total Security
momalle1 said:
All Microsoft needs now are some cute commercials and everyone will love them.
Click to expand...

No, MS needs John Mayer. Only John Mayer can save MS' reputation.
 

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Windows 7 Beta Build 7100 x86Intel Core 2 Quad Q66003GB DDR2-800nVidia GeForce 9600 GT
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 420
OS
Windows 7 Beta Build 7100 x86
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Motherboard
Intel G35
Memory
3GB DDR2-800
Graphics Card(s)
nVidia GeForce 9600 GT
Sound Card
Onboard SPDIF
Monitor(s) Displays
Panasonic TH-50PZ800U
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Hitachi 320GB
WD 500GB
Internet Speed
FiOS 20/20
Other Info
3 x ATi External DCT CableCard Tuners

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7, Windows Vista Ultimate, Ubuntu 9.042.4 Core24 GBnVidia 7950 GT
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made/ MSI Neo-F P965 Express
OS
Windows 7, Windows Vista Ultimate, Ubuntu 9.04
CPU
2.4 Core2
Motherboard
MSI P965 Neo
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
nVidia 7950 GT
Sound Card
Audigy 4 with Klipsch Promedia THX 2.1
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 930b
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024
Hard Drives
260 GB SATA, 500 GB SATA (Data)
PSU
400 W
Case
Ultra something or another
Cooling
Fans
Keyboard
Dell quite-key
Mouse
MS Optical USB
Internet Speed
Comcast Broadband 13 MBPS
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