| Windows 7: Lost your Windows discs? How to get replacement media, legally |
28 Jan 2012
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#21 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by bassfisher6522 My question is; what do you do when the recovery software and hidden OS partition has been deleted. You need to buy the recovery disks or do a clean install. RE: Clean Install using the COA PID key
This article seems to be all about Factory recovery.
Can forum members still provide the link to "My Digital Life" to download the ISO for a Clean Install as was agreed at one stage?? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
28 Jan 2012
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#22 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (upgrade) Lethbridge, AB |

Quote: Originally Posted by bigcitycat I don't understand Microsofts problem here. They can't be activated without a valid product key anyway. That's my thinking. They could simply offer an .iso download directly from their site (and could even offer a <700mb bootable installer .iso that automatically downloads the files as needed. This way they can ensure that everyone that chooses to download Windows will at least get the official build, without any cracks or hidden viruses or anything (it could even include checksums that prevent installation if tampering with the installer is detected). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple 17" iMac MA199LL (Early 2006) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (upgrade) CPU 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo Memory 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300) (upgrade) Graphics Card ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB GDDR3 memory Monitor(s) Displays 17-inch TFT active-matrix LCD, millions of colors Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 Keyboard Microsoft Wired Keyboard 600 Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 Hard Drives Hitachi 320GB HDT721032SLA360 7200RPM SATA II (upgrade) Internet Speed 4 Mbps Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Google Chrome Other Info WEI:
Base Score: 3.9 Processor: 4.4 Memory 4.7
Graphics: 3.9 Gaming Graphics: 4.1 Primary HD: 5.9 |
28 Jan 2012
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#23 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |

Quote: Originally Posted by mjf Can forum members still provide the link to "My Digital Life" to download the ISO for a Clean Install as was agreed at one stage??
Yes, dispensed individually to OP's who have a working thread requiring Repair Install or Clean Reinstalling Windows 7.
We need to demonstrate caution so we don't lose the approval to do this, given here, following MS's lead in their own forums. | My System Specs | | |
28 Jan 2012
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#24 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
I was referring to the same thread here. Just checking if there had been a policy change since, accepting you reference the link when appropriate. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
28 Jan 2012
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#25 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |

Quote: Originally Posted by Bertison 
Quote: Originally Posted by Brink By Ed Bott | January 5, 2012, 3:48pm PST Quote: Did your most recent Windows PC come with reinstallation media? Many do, some don’t. But contrary to what you might have read, creating replacement Windows discs is easy, and every major PC maker will supply backup discs, sometimes for free. I have details. Read more at: Lost your Windows discs? How to get replacement media, legally | ZDNet Some time ago, I needed to remove all the useless, space-wasting factory crud from my HP lappy and make a fresh install of Windows 7/64. On the UK "Micromart" magazine forum, I received good advice from a techie working in a large international PC outlet. I used his advice and I pass it on here: Backup all the stuff you intend to keep.
Your original Windows 7 Product Key is needed. On lappies, it is on the base. For a PC 'Big Box', it should have been a sticker in your original Windows disc case. If not, it may be stuck to the inside of the PC case.Write it down.
Borrow a genuine Windows 7 disc, OEM or Full. (Luckily, I had a full copy from my PC.) The disc MUST be same O/S as original: Windows 7/64, 32, Home Premium/Utimate/Professional/whatever.
Install the disc and follow the instructions for a complete new Installation. This will remove everything and prepare it for the new installation.
At activation, when asked for the Product Key, type in the one you wrote down, from your original O/S.
Follow the instructions on screen, for a shiny, spanking new installation.
Reinstall your backup stuff. What do you do with an old beat up laptop where the OS is history and optical drive is toast as well? That required a usb install key for Vista Home Premium where the drivers for chipset as well as video and sound had to be downloaded separately once a fresh copy of Windows was on.
The product key was simply taken from the sticker attached on the under side for that portable. The Vista dvd used had to be a genuine disk however for making up the install key not anything found elsewhere and to pass the WGA! 
Quote: Originally Posted by bassfisher6522 My question is; what do you do when the recovery software and hidden OS partition has been deleted. How do you recover to factory condition with out those two options. I'm working with a client right now that has a Toshiba laptop with just this problem. There has to be a way to recover to factory condition with out ordering the recovery disc's, mind you, that only comes with the OS and no drivers, which you have to download separately. You already mentioned part of the answer for that by locating the correct drivers at the manufacturer's support site. Once hidden recovery partition has been removed the device drivers and all prepackaged softwares are lost along with it including the OEM preactivation.
The option for recovery back to factory to include what came with it would require attaining an OEM disk direct from Toshiba likely through the dealer/vendor that sold the laptop itself. Often once the customer information is provided you will pay for shipping only.
One other to further point out is if the laptop or pc OEM comes with the 32bit Home Premium you cannot use a 64bit Home Premium disk. The OEM license only covers the 32bit Windows preinstalled.
A retail disk with a new license would be needed for seeing the 64bit flavor go on instead. The same applies in reverse for seeing the 32bit version of same go onto a machine that came with the 64bit. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
12 Feb 2012
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#26 | | Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit / XP Home sp3 Gulf Coast Texas |
Good to know.
Thanks Fabe | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit / XP Home sp3 CPU intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0ghz Motherboard Asus P5ND bios 1401 Memory 8 gigs 1066 OCZ Fata1ty Graphics Card EVGA GTX 580 Call of Duty Black Ops Edition Sound Card Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2zs Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24in LCD's 2MS X2 Screen Resolution 1920x1080p @60Hz Keyboard Logitech Bluetooth Wireless MX5000 Mouse Logitech Bluetooth Wireless MX1000 PSU OCZ 700W GameXtreme Case NZXT Apollo Cooling Corsair H50 CPU/120mm x3 /60mm x2 /Corsair Dominator Ram Hard Drives WD Caviar 500 Black/ WD Caviar 200 Blue Internet Speed Download 19.83 Upload 0.97 Other Info Logitech Z2300 Speakers/ Bose Noise Cancelling Headphones/Avermedia PCI-e Hybrid TV Bravo/Epson NX415 all in one/ 4 Port Powered USB Hub/ LG 10x Bluray Burner /TSST Corp DVDRW External |
12 Feb 2012
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#27 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit NC |

Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk 
Quote: Originally Posted by Bertison 
Quote: Originally Posted by Brink Some time ago, I needed to remove all the useless, space-wasting factory crud from my HP lappy and make a fresh install of Windows 7/64. On the UK "Micromart" magazine forum, I received good advice from a techie working in a large international PC outlet. I used his advice and I pass it on here: Backup all the stuff you intend to keep.
Your original Windows 7 Product Key is needed. On lappies, it is on the base. For a PC 'Big Box', it should have been a sticker in your original Windows disc case. If not, it may be stuck to the inside of the PC case.Write it down.
Borrow a genuine Windows 7 disc, OEM or Full. (Luckily, I had a full copy from my PC.) The disc MUST be same O/S as original: Windows 7/64, 32, Home Premium/Utimate/Professional/whatever.
Install the disc and follow the instructions for a complete new Installation. This will remove everything and prepare it for the new installation.
At activation, when asked for the Product Key, type in the one you wrote down, from your original O/S.
Follow the instructions on screen, for a shiny, spanking new installation.
Reinstall your backup stuff. What do you do with an old beat up laptop where the OS is history and optical drive is toast as well? That required a usb install key for Vista Home Premium where the drivers for chipset as well as video and sound had to be downloaded separately once a fresh copy of Windows was on.
The product key was simply taken from the sticker attached on the under side for that portable. The Vista dvd used had to be a genuine disk however for making up the install key not anything found elsewhere and to pass the WGA! 
Quote: Originally Posted by bassfisher6522 My question is; what do you do when the recovery software and hidden OS partition has been deleted. How do you recover to factory condition with out those two options. I'm working with a client right now that has a Toshiba laptop with just this problem. There has to be a way to recover to factory condition with out ordering the recovery disc's, mind you, that only comes with the OS and no drivers, which you have to download separately. You already mentioned part of the answer for that by locating the correct drivers at the manufacturer's support site. Once hidden recovery partition has been removed the device drivers and all prepackaged softwares are lost along with it including the OEM preactivation.
The option for recovery back to factory to include what came with it would require attaining an OEM disk direct from Toshiba likely through the dealer/vendor that sold the laptop itself. Often once the customer information is provided you will pay for shipping only.
One other to further point out is if the laptop or pc OEM comes with the 32bit Home Premium you cannot use a 64bit Home Premium disk. The OEM license only covers the 32bit Windows preinstalled.
A retail disk with a new license would be needed for seeing the 64bit flavor go on instead. The same applies in reverse for seeing the 32bit version of same go onto a machine that came with the 64bit.
Yeah..I totally agree with you...but my question was; with out having to buy the disc from the vendor. Even though it's a greatly discounted price. Toshiba charges $29.95 plus shipping. HP charges $19.95 plus shipping and Dell the same if I can remember correctly. And some vendors only have the OS and not the other preloaded software. Hp and Dell are big for that. A small price to pay for the customers peace of mind. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4 Memory GSkill 4 X 2 GB PC 8500 Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 6790 D Sound Card On board RealTek HD Monitor(s) Displays Dual monitors:Samsung SyncMaster S20B300 Screen Resolution 1600 X 900 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Razor DeathAdder PSU Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular Case Thermaltake Overseer RX 1 full tower Cooling Core-Contact 92 mm CPU Cooler Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 1TB (primary)
Seagate Barracuda 2 X 320 GB Internet Speed 50/5 Mbps UL/DL Other Info Optical: Super Muliti DVD burner w/lightscribe, Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1800 |
12 Feb 2012
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#28 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
I do not believe it is correct that you cannot clean reinstall 64-bit on an 32-bit preinstalled OEM system, or vice versa.
Under the EULA you are entitled to either 32-bit or 64-bit with each license but only one at a time.
No manufacturer can restrict the terms of the EULA even with Windows 7 factory OEM version - which you own, not them. They may not provide the desired bit-version drivers on their website but in my experience they can almost always be found using optional Updates, googling device model (if necessary using Hardware Identification) or as a last resort the excellent freeware DriverMax. Do not change drivers given by the installer or Updates unless performance dictates doing so - this is not XP.
When you reinstall factory OEM you should use the Product Key on the COA sticker which changes the activation from OEM-SLP mass-activation method used at factory to OEM-COA which is administered in MS Activation Servers. This removes activation entirely from the purview of the manufacturer and places it with MS which will always protect you under the terms of the EULA.
This often requires making the telephone robocall exchanging a series of numbers recording the hardware signature for the new OEM-COA in MS servers. It can then be reinstalled as often as you like with normal web reactivation as long as the hardware signature stays within bounds, e.g. no change of mobo.
Last edited by gregrocker; 12 Feb 2012 at 10:24 PM..
Reason: clarified factory OEM
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12 Feb 2012
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#29 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker I do not believe it is correct that you cannot clean reinstall 64-bit on an 32-bit preinstalled OEM system, or vice versa.
Under the EULA you are entitled to either 32-bit or 64-bit with each license but only one at a time.
No manufacturer can restrict the terms of the EULA even with Windows 7 OEM version which you own, not them. They may not provide the desired bit-version drivers on their website but in my experience they can almost always be found using optional Updates, google with Hardware Identification, or as a last resort the excellent freeware DriverMax. Do not change drivers given by the installer or Updates unless performance dictates doing so - this is not XP.
When you reinstall OEM you should use the Product Key on the COA sticker which changes the activation from OEM-SLP mass-activation method used at factory to OEM-COA which is administered in MS Activation Servers. It removes activation entirely from the purview of the manufacturer and places it with MS which will always protect you under the terms of the EULA.
This often requires making the telephone robocall when a series of numbers is exchanged recording the hardware signature for the new OEM-COA in MS Servers. It can then be reinstalled as often as you like with normal web reactivation as long as the hardware signature stays within bounds, e.g. no change of mobo. This is also my understanding. As I commented in an old post there are some pros and cons in going from OEM-SLP to OEM-COA. With OEM-SLP your activation is totally self contained. When you move to OEM-COA MS control your activation and you may get the occasional issue requiring a reactivation. The gain you get is a "clean" install if that really matters to you. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
13 Feb 2012
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#30 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
That's what you end up with! When using a factory provided recovery disk, the utility often provided to create one, or the option on many systems to start the factory restore with a key combination as a boot option you end up back where the system was when first bought. The preactivation and device drivers tucked away on the recovery partition are restored at that time.
Once you take someone else's disk of the same you then enter the key on the sticker but are then starting off without the device drivers and are required to reactivate using the same key. Then you have to either find the updates at the support site or use a program like SIW to identify board make and model, chipset, and any expansion cards(video, sound) installed in order to locate the drivers, apps for each.
If you switch from 32bit preinstall to 64bit that's a different story since OEM disks whether branded or non branded for system builders are not retail but one license per disk. The retail package sees both a 32bit and 64bit dvd included. As for an MSDN or TechNET paid subscription download you would need to ask Brink or someone else whether or not you could download both and use one key or only be able to use the key provided along with each download from MS.
If you own a business on the other hand with many machines you would likely buy a volume license that would cover both without any problem using either or both since the license covers far more. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
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