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01-18-2012
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#31 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Ubuntu 10.04 |
A counterpoint 
Quote: Originally Posted by FranzB That is true. A long time ago i often had discussions about that with a geologist friend of mine. He thought we would know soon how the brain functions. My philosophical counter was how you could understand the brain by using that same brain. But who knows. I see what you are saying.
I've always been fascinated by how it is possible to make ever more accurate devices/tools, using the previous generation's less accurate devices/tools.
Consider gears.
Someone had to hand "carve" the first gear and then using that, they (or someone else) created a more accurate gear and so on.
My friend often says, "if you bang a few rocks together in certain ways and for long enough, you can create any manufactured object." | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number n/a OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Ubuntu 10.04 CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1055T, 2.8 GHz Motherboard ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3 Memory 4 GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT Sound Card Realtek? Monitor(s) Displays Analog Silicon Graphics Screen Resolution 1600x1200 Mouse Wired Optical Case Tower Hard Drives Western Digital 1 TB (SATA), Western Digital 1.5 TB (SATA) Internet Speed DSL Other Info System Upgraded - 2011-05-21, 2010-07-14
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01-26-2012
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#32 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |
Whenever I think of addiction, I think of two things: The environment vs. nature/nurture debate, or in other words, do we allow ourselves to get addicted to something through some act of personal choice or volition (so many fun video games to play because we're bombarded by them) or are we just simply biologically programmed to fall into that pattern of behavior (can't help it), and also, is addiction filling the "void" of something else more wholesome that should be there but isn't, such as happiness, love, money, etc. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built/assembled myself OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Motherboard ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 Memory 8 GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 Graphics Card HIS Radeon HD 6970 Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 4 Monitor(s) Displays 3x ASUS VH238H 23" Eyefinity Screen Resolution 5760 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Razer Imperator PSU Corsair HX850W Case Gigabyte 3D Aurora 570 Cooling Stock heatsink/fan Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 1 TB SATA-3
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HP Photosmart 8150 printer
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01-26-2012
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#33 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |
msdos622wasfun,
Even the worst of addictions remains a choice. It doesn't matter whether it originated by birth, environment or any other factor. One may not control or choose what they are born with or adapt to, but they do choose whether to retain or overcome it/them, therefore the phrase "can't help it" is invalid.
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01-26-2012
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#34 | | windows 7 home premium 64/SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister msdos622wasfun,
Even the worst of addictions remains a choice. It doesn't matter whether it originated by birth, environment or any other factor. One may not control or choose what they are born with or adapt to, but they do choose whether to retain or overcome it/them, therefore the phrase "can't help it" is invalid. Bingo well said! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made OS windows 7 home premium 64/SP1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS with Corsair cooler Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
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01-28-2012
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#35 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. (On both machines) |
Any addictive personality (yes, they do exist) will eventually find something that floats their specific neural boat.
I have an 18-year old grandson with Asperger's Syndrome. Some years ago, I built him his first PC. Now he is studying Computer networks and security (CISCO) and will take a 'gap Year' to work in that fioeld, before attending Uni. He spends many hours in his room, building Virtual Networks. Is he addicted? No - he does not socialise well, he interacts poorly with others he does not know, but the use of computers brought out his genius -level intelligence (MENSA - measured) and gave it direction.
I would resist any attempt to scan his head! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number (PC) Gigabyte EG41MFT-US2H Self build. (Laptop) HP Dv7. OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. (On both machines) CPU (PC) Intel Quad Core Q6600: (Laptop) Turion II M520 Motherboard PC: as above. Laptop (HP System Board) 3639 33.23 Memory PC: Corsair DDR3 4GB Corsair Laptop: DDR-2 Micron 800 4 GB. Graphics Card ATI Asus HD6770: Laptop: ATI Mobile Radeon 4500. Sound Card Onboard. Monitor(s) Displays PC: Lyama Prolite E2407HDS 24" Laptop 17" Screen Resolution PC: 1920x1080. Laptop:1600x900 Keyboard Logitech MK 250 wireless. Mouse Logitech MK 250 wireless. PSU OCZ 550 GX. Laptop - ? Case Black Coolermaster Centurion 5 II. Cooling 2x120 mm. Coolermaster front & rear: 120mm. CM side fan. Hard Drives Pc: WD 5000AAKS (O/s, Photos, Files.)
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01-29-2012
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#36 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister msdos622wasfun,
Even the worst of addictions remains a choice. It doesn't matter whether it originated by birth, environment or any other factor. One may not control or choose what they are born with or adapt to, but they do choose whether to retain or overcome it/them, therefore the phrase "can't help it" is invalid. Semantics. I can't agree with that. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Artales OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Artales Motherboard Artales Memory Artales Graphics Card Artales Sound Card Artales Monitor(s) Displays Artales PSU Artales Case Artales Cooling Artales Hard Drives Artales |
01-29-2012
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#37 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Bertison Any addictive personality (yes, they do exist) will eventually find something that floats their specific neural boat.
I have an 18-year old grandson with Asperger's Syndrome. Some years ago, I built him his first PC. Now he is studying Computer networks and security (CISCO) and will take a 'gap Year' to work in that fioeld, before attending Uni. He spends many hours in his room, building Virtual Networks. Is he addicted? No - he does not socialise well, he interacts poorly with others he does not know, but the use of computers brought out his genius -level intelligence (MENSA - measured) and gave it direction.
I would resist any attempt to scan his head! I think the new technology is definitely having some effect on us but probably for the good as well as for detrimental afeects - perhaps this has some bearing - Multitasking may harm the social and emotional development of tweenage girls, researchers say
I think too much of anything is the basic problem and although we do seem to be trending towards an ever dependent reliance on technology it does make sense to avoid a complete dependence. There are signs that some people are becoming less able to focus or concentrate on single areas and this might be attributed to the way information is much more 'bitified' than it used to be. I think we are all perhaps liable to an addiction of some sort as the collecting trait seems to be universal in humans - how much of that downloaded 'free' content do we actually need?
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01-29-2012
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#38 | | |
Hi, I'm new around here, sorry for jumping into the thread. When I discovered the 'Internet', around 1993, I'd originally been interested in BBSs. A friend gave me an old modem and together with my Amiga I'd log into domestic telephones connected to personal computers and very shakily leave messages on something along the lines of this forum, mostly technical stuff much of which I didn't understand. It was fascinating. I was like a kid with a new train set and most people I showed this to thought I was a kid. They'd also thought I was a kid when I showed them my ZX80.
New websites were announced in magazines back then and Microsoft didn't believe the Internet would take off.
Technology has been around a lot longer even than farming and I don't mean phenotypical stuff and now I read there's only one days supply of food in supermarkets here in Britain at any time, an awful state of affairs, so at present we're completely screwed without it. The distortion in thinking astounds me, much like the evolution of roads; over two thousand years of technology to get them level and then someone puts bumps on them.
Anyway, the same dreadful dependency now exists with the Internet.
My expectation for the Internet as a knowledge and communication medium is very different from those who have been born post-Internet and no doubt their expectations will model it to their needs more fundamentally than I... Shopping, I am told is a cultural activity and the Internet is perfect for 'shopaholics'. I think it much more likely that 'The Media' is to blame for the aforementioned 'short-circuitry' and not the brain nor indeed the Internet itself. It has not taken long for the Internet to be hi-jacked. I'm not referring to 'convenience' here, but the sheer ferocious mental weight and dependence on advertising and commerce; perhaps I am not as 'immersed' as some would like me to be.
I'm wary that portraying certain 'activities' as 'damaging' is a dangerously subjective viewpoint however I don't like the current deployment and dependency, it's a 'house of cards' and if it does come crashing down or it's denied, there will be some fairly dysfunctional people around. I'm sure I've a pencil here somewhere... Thanks for reading, peace and love. http://www.avaaz.org/en/eu_save_the_internet/?tta
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02-05-2012
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#39 | | Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1 / WCP x64 / Ubuntu 11 x64 |
A few questions to ask. Do you consider yourself addicted to technology? If yes, does it affect you in any way? Enumerate the effects. Do you wish to continue your addiction? If yes, then you're certainly addicted. | My System Specs | | OS Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1 / WCP x64 / Ubuntu 11 x64 All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:07 PM. |  |