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Windows 7: Thunderbolt Controller 10 Times More Expensive than USB 3.0


16 Jan 2012   #11

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
...unless there is something else to consider.
The price is per port. So two Thunderbolt ports would be $20 on its own. The price does not include the additional cost of the circuitry and microchips/transistors/capacitors on the PCB. If you only need one port then it might not seem like a significant deal of money. But it adds up quickly with more ports you add. Not to mention a 2 meter cable for Thunderbolt is $50 all by its lonesome.

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16 Jan 2012   #12

Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
It should be noted that the speeds that I post were in MBs not Mbps. I'm not sure where your numbers come from, because according to this article the max Thunderbolt speed is 10Gbps:

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Code-named Light Peak, the current copper-based generation of Thunderbolt boasts 10Gbps data transfer speeds between computers and devices--that is, twice the speed of current USB 3.0 throughput. Future iterations of the specification are expected to move from copper wire to a fiber-optic connection, which Intel has said could one day allow for throughput rates up to 100Gbps.
Up to speed with Thunderbolt (week in review) | Business Tech - CNET News
Thunderbolt has two 10Gbs full duplex channels so that is why I stated 20Gbs.

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16 Jan 2012   #13

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I do not know of any hard drive that can use this speed external or other wise. I have tried my ssd on 2.0 and 3.0 and can't tell any change. It might be my system. I don't really know. That being said. If Thunderbolt works as stated I want one or two, three.
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17 Jan 2012   #14

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Thunderbolt may be a little ahead of it's time but will soon become useful, it will depend on the amount of useful product that come into the market.

The Current SSDs are saturating the SATA 6GB/s, the PCIe SSDs are starting to appear, Thunderbolt may be a stop gap for a while.
The Thunderbolt technology has room for increasing speed, with fiber optics but, will likely increase the price.

Don't see USB3 being adequate for very long.
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17 Jan 2012   #15

W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi
 
 

Hi there
The debate about new technology always starts out in this fashion -- is it worth paying for or is it not.
Eventually --yes -- but when people want to have several TB of data on their portable music / video device.

For example when the tiny Micro sdhc (those one's that go into smart phones as extra storage) cards appeared even 8GB was expensive. Now 32 GB is quite common -- on such a tiny device too and I suppose people will want the 64 and 128 GB cards if and when they appear too.

(With these sizes it's now worth playing your music at CD quality as a lot of players will now play FLAC and 32GB gives you a decent amount of music LOSSLESSLY compressed via FLAC -- approx enough storage for 128 CD's at WAV quality !!!!!!!!!!). For those who don't know FLAC is identical to WAV - the only difference it uses a LOSSLESS compression algorithm whereas WAV is uncompressed. MP3's use a LOSSY compression algorithm which is why you will hear a lot of artifacts when using a decent set of headphones on say an mp3 track compressed at 128 kbs. Higher compression rates are usually not useable unless it's say purely speech like in an audio book.

Some technology won't make it because of other considerations --for example with USB 2 / USB 3 available everywhere as standard who uses or has even heard of firewire these days.

I'm sure as the price drops people will buy thesenew devices too. I'd certainly like to copy a full 1TB disk in a few mins if possible.

Just look at commercial servers -- these devices could SIGNIFICANTLY reduce backup or outage time --especially as cheaper RAID devices.

cheers
jimbo
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18 Jan 2012   #16
Lee

Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11
 
 

Thanks to all who gave to this thread. It made for interesting reading. . .
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18 Jan 2012   #17

 

Thunderbolt, although I preferred Light Peak actually, is likely to develop into the networking side of things at a future point - so not only can you have drives and video links on it, but your entire intranet.

Right now there's no LAN hardware, but it's early days. I can forsee fibre-optic replacing internal LAN wiring within the next decade all the same, and todays data rates are tiny compared to where it could lead.
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26 Jan 2012   #18

Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
 
 
WD MyBook to use Thunderbolt

Looks like WD is getting on the Thunderbolt wagon.

WD's MyBook takes a Thunderbolt to the chest ? The Register

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