| Windows 7: Data in the Cloud cannot be guaranteed to be secure |
31 Jan 2012
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#11 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 x64 and Windows XP Professional SP3 x32 (Dual Boot) Connecticut, USA |
Normally, I wouldn't support the arrests of the MegaUpload owners. After seeing how much money laundering they did, and how they lied to the government and movie associations about taking down illegal links (they would only take down one, not all) though, I'm glad the owners got arrested.
Also a reason as to why I wouldn't trust my important documents to cloud servers, mainly because most people would use them for illegal things. I have my hard drives (and email I guess...) to keep my files. | My System Specs |
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31 Jan 2012
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#12 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
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31 Jan 2012
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#13 | | Windows 7 x64 / Same In Your Basement. |

Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 I agree Jimbo, but the bigger question in my mind is how can my government arrest and prosecute foreign nationals? It probably would have been more difficult, but one or more servers were located in Virginia, U.S.A.
Most were located in Hong Kong. But since at least one was in the U.S. it is easier for the FBI, DOJ, etc to get it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron 1520 (Laptop)/ Home (Desktop) OS Windows 7 x64 / Same CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T7250 / Intel Core i7 930 Motherboard Intel 945 / Asus P6X58D-E Memory 4GB / 6GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS / ASUS 1GB Sound Card Whatever Dell gave me :-( / Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.4" LCD / Crappy CRT Mouse Microsoft Presenter (Bluetooth) PSU N/A / OCZ Fatal1ty 550W Modular Case N/A / Antec 900 Cooling Air Hard Drives Seagate 500GB SATA; 7200 RPM / Seagate 1TB SATA; 7200 RPM |
01 Feb 2012
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#14 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |
Hi there
This isn't quite correct
-- Seizure of a Server isn't actually dependant on the COST or even the QUALITY of the service.
If the Govt (of whatever country) decides that "Due to issues of xxxxx" -- usually National Security --- we are going to SEIZE the server then there isn't much you can do other than wait (or initiate) some Court action which could take AGES to resolve even if there is NOTHING on the server that actually is breaking either the law (in that country) or contravening National Security.
I'm against also where ONE country decides to arrest / extradite citizens of another country where NO LAW HAS BEEN BROKEN in the country where extradition has been sought.
A typical example is the ongoing case of the British guy wanted by the USA even though he had done NOTHING currently against UK Law.
Other countries that have often done this type of stuff are Israel (Mossad particularly in removing people they don't like -- even if one feels Israel *might* have a case International Law should be followed) and Russia.
(Countries should recognize the fact that laws ARE different in different places and whether or not these countries like other people's law they HAVE to learn to live with it}.
I'm always amazed that when INNOCENT people are arrested by the FBI in the USA they are carried off "In Handcuffs" before any proof of innocence or guilt has been proved. If Innocent how often do the FBI ever pay up for "Wrongful arrest" or " Stress" -- the USA as a "Democracy" exempts a lot of FBI action from being sued in civil courts.
I'm not against LEGITIMATE seizure of data but the "Get out of Jail Mantra" for a lot of governments seems to be that old hardy perennial "National Security".
Cheers
jimbo
Last edited by jimbo45; 01 Feb 2012 at 05:02 PM..
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01 Feb 2012
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#15 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) Adelaide |
Megaupload Update Here are some ZDNet links. Quote: Summary: The site’s uncertain fate serves as a reminder that SMBs should carefully consider the viability of cloud storage and backup services they use — or they could lose important company data. Why small businesses should care about the Megaupload debacle | ZDNet Quote: Summary: The hosting company that provides service to shuttered file-sharing service Megaupload said today that data will remain in safe hands for now. "No imminent data loss" expected, Megaupload host says | ZDNet | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number n/a OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1055T, 2.8 GHz Motherboard ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3 Memory 8GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill Ares F3-1333C9D-8GAO (4GB x 2) Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD6450 Sound Card Realtek? Monitor(s) Displays Samsung S23B350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Mouse Wired Optical Case Tower Hard Drives Western Digital 1 TB (SATA), Western Digital 1.5 TB (SATA), Western Digital 2 TB (SATA) Internet Speed DSL Other Info Ubuntu 10.04 (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) - 2013-01-14
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01 Feb 2012
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#16 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
If their is a question all one has to remember is any thing in a cloud you do have not control of security. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
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01 Mar 2012
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#17 | | Win7 Pro x64 Stage 5.0 (26 Dimensional Jump) |
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01 Mar 2012
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#18 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Trucidation Not to mention reliability No kidding. Anyone who says, "they couldn't understand how such an important system could go down" and "this should never happen", after something like this does happen, was obviously duped into a false sense of security and does not need to be in charge of something that big in the first place. The Titanic would never sink, space shuttles would never blow up, blabbedy blah, blah.
Idiots. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Colonel Travis 5000 OS Black Label 7 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1055t Motherboard GA-890FXA-UD5 Memory 8GB Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card Radeon HD 6790 Sound Card X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty Pro Monitor(s) Displays Acer AJ15 Screen Resolution 1600x900 PSU OCZ ModXStream 700W Cooling 50 billion case fans Hard Drives OCZ Agility 3 SSD 120GB |
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02 Mar 2012
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#19 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64/SP 1 |
More than makes me a little hesitant of using either Google Apps or Office 365 - not that either company will go tits up in the near future - but "cloud" computing is so vast... you never know what could happen. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba a665 Laptop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64/SP 1 CPU i7 Q740 1.73 Memory 8 gB Hard Drives Samsung 830 SSD 120gB |
02 Mar 2012
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#20 | | |
Aye and your local hard drive is any more reliable. Silly people.
As for Windows Azure going down...it didn't only the management dashboard because of certificate issues. Leap years got its claws in the certificate causing issues for connecting. But no data was lost. * Azure wasn't the only to have certificate issues on the 29th. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware Aurora ALX R4 OS Windows 7 x64 (SP1) CPU Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz, Turbo 4GHz) Motherboard Alienware Aurora-R4 x79 Memory 4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz) Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce GTX 690 (Stock) Sound Card RealTek Integrated Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U3011 Screen Resolution 2560x1600 PSU 875W Some Dell PSU <.< Hard Drives Samsung P830 256 GB, WD Raptor 150GB, 2x 1TB HDDs Other Info Dell Inspiron Mini 10v (Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz; 1GB; Windows 7 Ultimate) Data in the Cloud cannot be guaranteed to be secure problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:54 AM. | |