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Windows 7: "Windows 8 Survey: Half Who Have Tried the OS Wouldn't Recommend It"

10 Mar 2012   #31
Lebon14

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post
I keep booting it up and trying, but I just cant find the slightest bit of love for it and the server version may well turn me to linux.
Oh! I see the admin is of the same advice as me.

It's like I said : The metro interface will be awesome on tablet but will fail on PCs and laptops.


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10 Mar 2012   #32
Coke Robot

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Then again, half of the people that like it would rather stay on Windows 7 for the rest of their lives....another decade long episode reminiscent of xp anyone?

Eight is great! Honestly, some people just don't like change. Or some people that don't like Windows 8's Start Screen just haven't found all the different things it can do. It's like having Windows Explorer and the Start Menu in one screen. Windows 8 actually brings back a long lost concept of the Start Menu that originated from Windows 95, and that is to make finding programs and files easier and not have to navigate for a year to find things. From a power user's stance, it makes that even easier. From an average person's stance, it makes the Windows environment more friendlier and easier and better organized than a Start menu with an endless list of folders and subfolders in the All Programs list, which not many people truly access other than power users.

I have a friend who I show to the Windows 8 to and he didn't care for it, he just pins what he needs to the Taskbar. I told him the reason why Microsoft killed the start menu because the Windows 7 Taskbar killed the most fundamental feature of Windows, the Start Menu. He thought it was unnecessary even though I brought to his attention that he has a plethora of games installed and some he doesn't even play. In his Start Menu is a ridiculous amount of folders, I was appalled and didn't even want to try to tame that. He also has a Desktop FULL, literally FULL of little icons to DOS games to NES games to PS games to PC games. It's gross. From my standpoint, I would think the Start Screen would allow my friend to find his games faster and organize them better. It would unclutter a cluttered Desktop, which the Start Menu in Windows 95 aimed to do, and make the most frequently accessed programs placed in the first screen, and the less accessed in the other screens of the Start Screen.

But setting that aside, I agree with Microsoft's standpoint on software design. The past decade of software design has always tried to emulate a fake texture. Xp really does look like a plastic toy, vista is glassy, 7 is more glassy, the mac os is has a metallic monochrome feel, iOS is the same, android is a black hole of a mess. Not only that, the software design has also tried to look 3D like, such as the Aero Flip feature in vista and 7, or the 3D icons in iOS or mac os. You CANNOT make true 3D from a flat screen monitor or whatever LED or LCD screen. One of the themes of metro design is to be "authentically digital." That means things aren't going 3D, things aren't trying to look like a physical texture; it should be colors and 2D pixels. This is true.
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10 Mar 2012   #33
andyparks

windows 7 home prem 64 bit
 
 

I dual booted it with my windows 7 and didn't like it at all and missed the orb/start button the metro is ok but with out touch screen will make things harder to use ..now back on windows 7 factory reset
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10 Mar 2012   #34
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
Eight is great! Honestly, some people just don't like change.
For some people, there isn't sometimes a good reason to make changes. I look at the way that I use a computer and I look at Windows 7 and find very little that I would change to make myself more proficient in getting things done. From my limited experience with using Windows 8, I found that I had to learn how to do basic tasks all over again, and I often times had to click through multiple screens and dialog boxes to do the same tasks that I would do in less steps with Windows 7.

A big factor for me on using a new operating system is cost. Changes aside, the question becomes whether spending $199 or $299 provides enough additional benefits to outweigh the costs. I was never a big fan of Vista, and didn't upgrade my main desktop from XP as I didn't see any value in Vista. However, when I built my new rig, I invested in a copy of Windows 7 as it seemed a substantial upgrade from XP. But I haven't seen enough evidence that investing in Windows 8 is going to make me happy or feel that the cost of the upgrade was worth it.
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10 Mar 2012   #35
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi everyone
Perhaps we're asking the WRONG question here.

Instead of saying whether the UPGRADE is worth the price or not -- perhaps we should be asking --when you buy your NEXT computer will you STICK with W7 or Choose W8 as I'm sure by then an upgrade path will be available.

If you are happy TODAY on the computer(s) you are using and there isn't a "killer" feature on W8 that "You Must Have" then stick with the old OS.

I stayed for ages and ages with XP on one laptop -- it did everything I wanted and I couldn't be bothered to upgrade to W7. However when I got a NEW machine that was another issue.

Most of the threads here seem aimed at the UPGRADE market -- I think MS is changing the marketing strategy to appeal to the NEXT generation of NEW Windows users.

I can't see ANY business upgrading to W8 for years yet as some of them have barely started converting to W7 from XP --and I've still seen a few W2K servers around too!!!.

A lot of die hard users won't (predictably) like this version of Windows -- but you might find it appeals to a load of the current newer generation who seem to spend all day long staring into their mobile phones.

Big Market out there.

Cheers
jimbo
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10 Mar 2012   #36
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

I hope Microsoft will make another Mojave project with all those morons that talk Windows8 down without ever having used it.

I think the Metro is great - especially for "light" users that do not want to do geeky things. My own test with a bunch of seniors concluded that they thought it would be much easier to navigate and find things than in Windows7. Just think of the awkward way of finding stuff in All Programs - All Apps is certainly a lot easier.

The Metro in combination with half a dozen keyboard shortcuts gets you really fast to where you want to be. I fail to see where the problem is - I think it is mainly human resistance to change.
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10 Mar 2012   #37
z3r010

 

What do you suggest they do for all of us that have tried it and absolutely hate it?
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10 Mar 2012   #38
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post
What do you suggest they do for all of us that have tried it and absolutely hate it?
An open mind. And go down the list of things you think you cannot do and find a solution for each one. I have not yet found anything I could not do - but that does not mean that there may be things that are a bit more difficult to accomplish. But that is probably not a problem inherent in the start menu.

Lately I have actually seen more people that like Win8 than those that do not like it.
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10 Mar 2012   #39
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post
What do you suggest they do for all of us that have tried it and absolutely hate it?
Hi there
W7 will still be around for years yet too WITH improvements and features

Just take a Car Manufacturer as an example --they don't normally only market ONE model.

W7 and W8 can co-exist --can't see anything wrong with that especially if they are basically aimed at different pieces of kit and probably a different user base too.


Cheers
jimbo
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10 Mar 2012   #40
alphanumeric
Microsoft MVP

Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post
What do you suggest they do for all of us that have tried it and absolutely hate it?
An open mind. And go down the list of things you think you cannot do and find a solution for each one. I have not yet found anything I could not do - but that does not mean that there may be things that are a bit more difficult to accomplish. But that is probably not a problem inherent in the start menu.

Lately I have actually seen more people that like Win8 than those that do not like it.
While I'm sure I can do everything I do on Windows 7 on Windows 8, why would I if I hate the interface and have a choice? I can probably do all that I do now on a MAC or a Linux PC but I'm in no hurry to go that route either. I'm not going to pay Microsoft for something I don't like just because they tell me "You'll get used to it".
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