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10 Mar 2012
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#31 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 QC, Canada |

Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010 I keep booting it up and trying, but I just cant find the slightest bit of love for it and the server version may well turn me to linux. Oh! I see the admin is of the same advice as me.
It's like I said : The metro interface will be awesome on tablet but will fail on PCs and laptops. | My System Specs |
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10 Mar 2012
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#32 | | |
Then again, half of the people that like it would rather stay on Windows 7 for the rest of their lives....another decade long episode reminiscent of xp anyone?
Eight is great! Honestly, some people just don't like change. Or some people that don't like Windows 8's Start Screen just haven't found all the different things it can do. It's like having Windows Explorer and the Start Menu in one screen. Windows 8 actually brings back a long lost concept of the Start Menu that originated from Windows 95, and that is to make finding programs and files easier and not have to navigate for a year to find things. From a power user's stance, it makes that even easier. From an average person's stance, it makes the Windows environment more friendlier and easier and better organized than a Start menu with an endless list of folders and subfolders in the All Programs list, which not many people truly access other than power users.
I have a friend who I show to the Windows 8 to and he didn't care for it, he just pins what he needs to the Taskbar. I told him the reason why Microsoft killed the start menu because the Windows 7 Taskbar killed the most fundamental feature of Windows, the Start Menu. He thought it was unnecessary even though I brought to his attention that he has a plethora of games installed and some he doesn't even play. In his Start Menu is a ridiculous amount of folders, I was appalled and didn't even want to try to tame that. He also has a Desktop FULL, literally FULL of little icons to DOS games to NES games to PS games to PC games. It's gross. From my standpoint, I would think the Start Screen would allow my friend to find his games faster and organize them better. It would unclutter a cluttered Desktop, which the Start Menu in Windows 95 aimed to do, and make the most frequently accessed programs placed in the first screen, and the less accessed in the other screens of the Start Screen.
But setting that aside, I agree with Microsoft's standpoint on software design. The past decade of software design has always tried to emulate a fake texture. Xp really does look like a plastic toy, vista is glassy, 7 is more glassy, the mac os is has a metallic monochrome feel, iOS is the same, android is a black hole of a mess. Not only that, the software design has also tried to look 3D like, such as the Aero Flip feature in vista and 7, or the 3D icons in iOS or mac os. You CANNOT make true 3D from a flat screen monitor or whatever LED or LCD screen. One of the themes of metro design is to be "authentically digital." That means things aren't going 3D, things aren't trying to look like a physical texture; it should be colors and 2D pixels. This is true. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Athlon 240 II @ 2.8-4.004 ghz Motherboard M4A78LT-M LE Memory SuperTalent 4gb DDR3 Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3000HD Screen Resolution 1440*900 Case Re-modded Dell Dimension 4550 Cooling Vantec 92mm Tornado x2 Other Info It looks pretty. |
10 Mar 2012
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#33 | | windows 7 home prem 64 bit wombwell |
I dual booted it with my windows 7 and didn't like it at all and missed the orb/start button the metro is ok but with out touch screen will make things harder to use ..now back on windows 7 factory reset | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number acer aspire x3950 OS windows 7 home prem 64 bit CPU i3 530 Memory 4 gig ddr 3 Graphics Card onboard i only play game using onlive cloud gaming Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays i-inc 19 wide screen Keyboard logitech Mouse motor mouse PSU 250 Case small form Cooling fan Hard Drives 640 gig Internet Speed 50 meg Other Info Firefox nightly 64bit |
10 Mar 2012
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#34 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Coke Robot Eight is great! Honestly, some people just don't like change. For some people, there isn't sometimes a good reason to make changes. I look at the way that I use a computer and I look at Windows 7 and find very little that I would change to make myself more proficient in getting things done. From my limited experience with using Windows 8, I found that I had to learn how to do basic tasks all over again, and I often times had to click through multiple screens and dialog boxes to do the same tasks that I would do in less steps with Windows 7.
A big factor for me on using a new operating system is cost. Changes aside, the question becomes whether spending $199 or $299 provides enough additional benefits to outweigh the costs. I was never a big fan of Vista, and didn't upgrade my main desktop from XP as I didn't see any value in Vista. However, when I built my new rig, I invested in a copy of Windows 7 as it seemed a substantial upgrade from XP. But I haven't seen enough evidence that investing in Windows 8 is going to make me happy or feel that the cost of the upgrade was worth it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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10 Mar 2012
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#35 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |
Hi everyone
Perhaps we're asking the WRONG question here.
Instead of saying whether the UPGRADE is worth the price or not -- perhaps we should be asking --when you buy your NEXT computer will you STICK with Windows 7 or Choose W8 as I'm sure by then an upgrade path will be available.
If you are happy TODAY on the computer(s) you are using and there isn't a "killer" feature on W8 that "You Must Have" then stick with the old OS.
I stayed for ages and ages with XP on one laptop -- it did everything I wanted and I couldn't be bothered to upgrade to Windows 7. However when I got a NEW machine that was another issue.
Most of the threads here seem aimed at the UPGRADE market -- I think MS is changing the marketing strategy to appeal to the NEXT generation of NEW Windows users.
I can't see ANY business upgrading to W8 for years yet as some of them have barely started converting to Windows 7 from XP --and I've still seen a few W2K servers around too!!!.
A lot of die hard users won't (predictably) like this version of Windows -- but you might find it appeals to a load of the current newer generation who seem to spend all day long staring into their mobile phones.
Big Market out there.
Cheers
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10 Mar 2012
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#36 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
I hope Microsoft will make another Mojave project with all those morons that talk Windows8 down without ever having used it.
I think the Metro is great - especially for "light" users that do not want to do geeky things. My own test with a bunch of seniors concluded that they thought it would be much easier to navigate and find things than in Windows7. Just think of the awkward way of finding stuff in All Programs - All Apps is certainly a lot easier.
The Metro in combination with half a dozen keyboard shortcuts gets you really fast to where you want to be. I fail to see where the problem is - I think it is mainly human resistance to change. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
10 Mar 2012
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#37 | | Windows 8 Pro Standish, Lancashire, England |
What do you suggest they do for all of us that have tried it and absolutely hate it? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number doofenshmirtz evil incorporated OS Windows 8 Pro CPU Intel Core i7-3970X Extreme Edition Motherboard ASRock X79 EXTREME11 Memory 32GB (8x4GB) Corsair DDR3 Dominator Platinum Graphics Card 2x 3GB EVGA GTX 660 Ti Superclocked+ Sound Card Creative Monitor(s) Displays 3 x27" Dell & 2 x 23" Dell Screen Resolution 3 @ 2560x1440 & 2 @ 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Ergononic 7000 Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU 1500W ThermalTake Toughpower Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Cooling Antec Kúhler H2O 620 CPU Watercooler Hard Drives 240GB Intel 520 Series, 2.5" SSD, SATA III
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10 Mar 2012
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#38 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |

Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010 What do you suggest they do for all of us that have tried it and absolutely hate it? An open mind. And go down the list of things you think you cannot do and find a solution for each one. I have not yet found anything I could not do - but that does not mean that there may be things that are a bit more difficult to accomplish. But that is probably not a problem inherent in the start menu.
Lately I have actually seen more people that like Win8 than those that do not like it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
10 Mar 2012
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#39 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |

Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010 What do you suggest they do for all of us that have tried it and absolutely hate it? Hi there
Windows 7 will still be around for years yet too WITH improvements and features
Just take a Car Manufacturer as an example --they don't normally only market ONE model.
Windows 7 and W8 can co-exist --can't see anything wrong with that especially if they are basically aimed at different pieces of kit and probably a different user base too.
Cheers
jimbo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi CPU Q9400 QUAD Motherboard P5QL-CM Memory 8GB Graphics Card On Motherborad Sound Card Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Apple Cinema display Mouse Toshiba wireless laser Hard Drives 4 X 1TB SATA Internet Speed > 20MB up |
10 Mar 2012
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#40 | | Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 Sydney, Nova Scotia |

Quote: Originally Posted by whs 
Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010 What do you suggest they do for all of us that have tried it and absolutely hate it? An open mind. And go down the list of things you think you cannot do and find a solution for each one. I have not yet found anything I could not do - but that does not mean that there may be things that are a bit more difficult to accomplish. But that is probably not a problem inherent in the start menu.
Lately I have actually seen more people that like Win8 than those that do not like it. While I'm sure I can do everything I do on Windows 7 on Windows 8, why would I if I hate the interface and have a choice? I can probably do all that I do now on a MAC or a Linux PC but I'm in no hurry to go that route either. I'm not going to pay Microsoft for something I don't like just because they tell me "You'll get used to it". | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz Motherboard Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard Memory 8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory Graphics Card BFG NVIDIA Geforce 220GT 1 Gig DDR2 PCIe Sound Card VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 19" I-INC AG191D TFT Flat Panel Screen Resolution 1280x1024 x 2 Keyboard Logitech Internet 600 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackman Wheel PSU Retail Plus 465 Watt Case Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case Cooling Stock heatsink and fan Hard Drives 500 Gig WesternDigital SATA-300 Drive Internet Speed 80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Internet Explorer 10 Other Info HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2 "Windows 8 Survey: Half Who Have Tried the OS Wouldn't Recommend It" problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:06 PM. | |