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Windows 7: American ISPs to launch massive copyright spying scheme on July 12


24 Mar 2012   #101

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This viewpoint that all bittorrenting is bad is way off. Blizzard uses bittorrent p2p technology for faster downloading of their massive client. Linux distro's major way of being downloaded is, by torrents.
Massive amounts of other free to play mmorpg games out there (perfect world....) i noticed used bittorrent technology for downloading their games.
So with that being said, if this is an attack to throttle filesharing again... its getting ridiculous. I had my ISP throttle my bandwit before... and i really don't want to be affected by this again just because the industries are so paranoid.

Yeah. Watch me download Mists of Pandaria for WoW and some other MMORPGS. big woop. Stop spying.

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24 Mar 2012   #102

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like I said - if they indiscriminately do this and affect customers who aren't doing anything wrong (unknowning wifi owners/legal data dl'ers) they will lose trust and business

if they inadvertently prove they are tapping into your data as to legitimize their intervention they could get in trouble for warrant-less wiretapping

do they want to lose customers?

because it looks like either way they will lose.
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24 Mar 2012   #103

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You have to remember that most people aren't even aware of this. We know because I posted the article here. Unless it becomes a "cause celebre" it won't get a reaction. Only when SOPA became well known did it get a strong reaction.

Also, the idea that people will leave their ISP's in protest reminds me of the "boycot the gas stations so they will lose business and lower their prices" emails that circulate every so often. I won't be leaving my fast ISP, and most will not either. Especially when all the major players seem to be on the list.

This issue will have to become well known for their to be an uproar. A Guy
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24 Mar 2012   #104

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cccangel View Post
This viewpoint that all bittorrenting is bad is way off. Blizzard uses bittorrent p2p technology for faster downloading of their massive client. Linux distro's major way of being downloaded is, by torrents.
Massive amounts of other free to play mmorpg games out there (perfect world....) i noticed used bittorrent technology for downloading their games.
So with that being said, if this is an attack to throttle filesharing again... its getting ridiculous. I had my ISP throttle my bandwit before... and i really don't want to be affected by this again just because the industries are so paranoid.

Yeah. Watch me download Mists of Pandaria for WoW and some other MMORPGS. big woop. Stop spying.
yeah i got throttled before from my 5.5mb download to 2.3 for like 3 weeks for downloading a couple of steam games like tf2 and other ones that i had bought like me2,dragon age and nfs hot pursuit when i got them on the steam sale back in November. at&t hates it when i download anything apparently, have to do it in like small amounts every day so they dont throttle me. So if i need a big file like say the bfbc2 update which is around 2gbs i can do that but wait like a day or so before getting another file bigger or around the same size. hate it
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24 Mar 2012   #105

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Im confused. Few weeks ago Obama passed that bill for Internet Privacy.

So ...
We can keep things private on our end and from other sites, but now the ISP will be spying on us anyway?

So we are protected from sites but not our ISP....
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24 Mar 2012   #106

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
You have to remember that most people aren't even aware of this. We know because I posted the article here. Unless it becomes a "cause celebre" it won't get a reaction. Only when SOPA became well known did it get a strong reaction.
I'm a bit confused. Why does the fact that you posted the article indicate the amount of reaction that others may have? Someone had to post it, but whether it was you or someone else, it would be the same. I would imagine that it has also been posted in forums, blogs, etc. elsewhere also, but all that we can focus on is here (unless someone want to take the baton elsewhere).
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Also, the idea that people will leave their ISP's in protest reminds me of the "boycot the gas stations so they will lose business and lower their prices" emails that circulate every so often. I won't be leaving my fast ISP, and most will not either. Especially when all the major players seem to be on the list.
This issue will have to become well known for their to be an uproar. A Guy
Whether you stay or go with your ISP is strictly your choice, but I would not remain simply for a little more bandwidth, which usually doesn't come free anyway.
I'm not suggesting that you go back to a dialup connection (although I would consider it). but don't you have any options otherwise?
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24 Mar 2012   #107

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
You have to remember that most people aren't even aware of this. We know because I posted the article here. Unless it becomes a "cause celebre" it won't get a reaction. Only when SOPA became well known did it get a strong reaction.

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I'm a bit confused. Why does the fact that you posted the indicate the amount of reaction that others may have? Someone had to post it, but whether it was you or someone else, it would be the same. I would imagine that it has also been posted in forums, blogs, etc. elsewhere also, but all that we can focus on is here.
Also, the idea that people will leave their ISP's in protest reminds me of the "boycot the gas stations so they will lose business and lower their prices" emails that circulate every so often. I won't be leaving my fast ISP, and most will not either. Especially when all the major players seem to be on the list.
This issue will have to become well known for their to be an uproar. A Guy
Whether you stay or go with your ISP is strictly your choice, but I would not remain simply for a little more bandwidth, which usually doesn't come free anyway.
I'm not suggesting that you go back to a dialup connection (although I would consider it). but don't you have any options otherwise?
I can't help you with your confusion. It has nothing to do with the fact that A Guy posted it. It had to do with the fact that someone posted it. If you are making the assumption that if I hadn't, someone else would have, that is your assumption. You sure like to add your own spin to others postings.

You might not remain with your ISP, but I wasn't thinking of you as representative. I was expressing my opinion that the average user will not leave their chosen ISP in protest. Hell, the majority will likely be clueless to the whole issue, as I stated. Most people will not have access to multiple broadband carriers, much less one not implementing this program. So they will remain, even if they know about the issue, and are not happy about it.

A Guy
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24 Mar 2012   #108

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

It seems that I don't have any exclusive on spin.
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24 Mar 2012   #109

Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195
 
 

I have to aggree with the "it needsto be spread more" part. When SOPA came out, it was practically evrerywhere in the internet: blogs, Youtube... even 4chan, 9gag, reddit, etc.

Thing is, people NEED to be made aware of the facts, and only then can we see a possibility of an uproar.
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24 Mar 2012   #110

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Why do you feel that it would just be a handful
1 not every body knows of it
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because this thread isn't being flooded with responses?
no i know this
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