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Windows 7: American ISPs to launch massive copyright spying scheme on July 12

25 Mar 2012   #121
FuturDreamz

Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
 
 

So don't choose left, don't choose right, but choose the middle.
I think it's time for a third political party.


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25 Mar 2012   #122
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

It doesn't matter how many wings that bird has, it will still end up the same. The only difference is that it might do a bit more gyrations along the way.
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25 Mar 2012   #123
FuturDreamz

Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
It doesn't matter how many wings that bird has, it will still end up the same. The only difference is that it might do a bit more gyrations along the way.
That's an odd metaphor.

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Then again Canadian parties are always changing, so I could be biased.
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25 Mar 2012   #124
seekermeister

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No less odd than your response to it. I'm not talking about whether we have the right to make changes to the government, I'm saying that it doesn't really make any difference in the long run as to how things will add up. It seems obvious that you don't understand what I'm getting at, but don't ask for an explanation, because that would require me to break the forum rules...more than I already have.
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25 Mar 2012   #125
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Statler and Waldorf spring to mind.
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25 Mar 2012   #126
FuturDreamz

Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
No less odd than your response to it. I'm not talking about whether we have the right to make changes to the government, I'm saying that it doesn't really make any difference in the long run as to how things will add up. It seems obvious that you don't understand what I'm getting at, but don't ask for an explanation, because that would require me to break the forum rules...more than I already have.
Well that's a depressing way to look at life, saying that any changes would be meaningless.

Then again, there is that little roadblock where the media has the right to broadcast whatever they want, no matter how dishonest... Because of this, the parties are capable of purchasing media companies such as FOX to broadcast messages that promote their party at the expense of others, and any new entreat would be hit with an avalanche of bad media, effectively making them DOA. Part of this probably stems from the war propaganda of the World Wars, which trained the masses to be afraid of whatever the media told them to. Even then you still have many voters who believe the official party line without question. While you see both parties to be Yin and Yang and together achieve a happy medium, in reality they both act the same and only exaggerate the minor differences between them.
You use the metaphor of the left wing and the right wing as beating in alternate to make the bird fly, but what is the destination? What is all this flapping leading to? Is the bird truly flying? Or is it falling from a great height, unable to see the oncoming ground because it has it's eyes closed?
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25 Mar 2012   #127
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

It is only depressing if you don't understand what follows the birds. There will come a time when these birds will become extinct, and things become the way that they should have been long ago. As to the manner of the bird's flight, it is very difficult to accurately describe. However, they have been aloft for a very long time. Some may mourn their passing, but not I.
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25 Mar 2012   #128
FuturDreamz

Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
 
 

I never said I would. The internet changed everything, and now everything changes.
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26 Mar 2012   #129
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there
Fortunately Politicians are either too busy feathering their own nests or are total technophobe Lawyers --so by the time any of this type of legislation could actually be brought into practice the whole concept would be out of date.

Even the latest Fibre Optic cable systems won't be around for all that much longer --in 20 years or even less we'll ALL be doing out internet via direct SATELLITE links - no cable, no ISP's etc etc. And monitoring ZILLIONS of transmissions from satellites --- well forget it.

Look at the rediculous measure the Movie and Music industries took to try and combat piracy --- 1) CSS DVD encryption so initially they thought DVD's weren't playable on computers -- VLC player soon made that piece of encryption redundant

2) Regional encoding -- VLC again to the rescue as is LEGAL software from Slysoft etc -- AnyDVD for example

3) "Un rippable" audio CD's -- didn't stand a hope - especially after Apple launched iTunes and the iPOD (whether or not you like iTunes --I don't BTW) ripping / mp3 playing and portable music became mainstream.

4) Fast internet so films etc can be watched anywhere without the need for a DVD release at all.

5) Preventing acces to Torrent sites -- doesn't work because as soon as you shut down one loads of others appear -- sometimes under total different guises where files are encrypted as well.

Etc etc.

The only thing you can do is to make the product cheap enough so Piracy isn't really worth the hassle.

I know plenty of people who have downloaded music from a "site" -- and then decide they want the original CD quality so they have actually BOUGHT the music -- They would never have heard of it otherwise !!

Look how much money Hollywood etc made last year alone. This year they are producing so much RUBBISH I doubt if Piracy will be a problem in any case this year whatever the laws passed.

Cheers
jimbo
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26 Mar 2012   #130
seekermeister

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Even the latest Fibre Optic cable systems won't be around for all that much longer --in 20 years or even less we'll ALL be doing out internet via direct SATELLITE links - no cable, no ISP's etc etc. And monitoring ZILLIONS of transmissions from satellites --- well forget it.
The plans of mice and men...
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