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Windows 7: American ISPs to launch massive copyright spying scheme on July 12


17 Mar 2012   #31

 
 

I offer this experience, and ask what conclusions might be reached:

This person once bragged to me how after copying hundreds of music CDs to blanks, all the originals were sold and just the copies were kept. Later this person participated in a band and posted their original music on-line. But before doing so they made sure the original music was copyrighted. When I asked why, the response was to keep the music from being copied without permission.



Cheers!
Robert

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17 Mar 2012   #32

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by iseeuu View Post
I offer this experience, and ask what conclusions might be reached:

This person once bragged to me how after copying hundreds of music CDs to blanks, all the originals were sold and just the copies were kept. Later this person participated in a band and posted their original music on-line. But before doing so they made sure the original music was copyrighted. When I asked why, the response was to keep the music from being copied without permission.



Cheers!
Robert
That translates to a peculiar quirk that humans have, it's called "Don't do as I do, do as I say".

Your acquaintance obviously felt it was okay to do what S/he did as an individual, but once associated with a group/band had to acquiesce to the groups majority ruling.
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17 Mar 2012   #33

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Can someone fill me in on this? What I mean to say, wouldn't Peerblock still do whatever it does; hiding pirates from being monitored on what they're downloading from their ISP? If Peerblock is still working, then what's the point in this "scheme" if many knowledgeable pirates use Peerblock or some other service to avoid being caught?
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17 Mar 2012   #34

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The "professionals" will still skate by. The occasional "pirate" is always the one who gets caught, and is made an example of. A Guy
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17 Mar 2012   #35

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit + xp,Vista,ubuntu in V-Box's
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Skulblaka View Post
Can someone fill me in on this? What I mean to say, wouldn't Peerblock still do whatever it does; hiding pirates from being monitored on what they're downloading from their ISP? If Peerblock is still working, then what's the point in this "scheme" if many knowledgeable pirates use Peerblock or some other service to avoid being caught?
Peerblock can't catch all the spys, it can only catch known-spy's (I think).

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A Guy:
The "professionals" will still skate by. The occasional "pirate" is always the one who gets caught, and is made an example of. A Guy
That is the truth of it right there, with seedboxes,tunnels...ect that the pros hide behind "They" can only catch the little guy!


@Everyone: Don't sing in the shower!! They will shut your water off!!!
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17 Mar 2012   #36

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jeepmann4x4 View Post
@Everyone: Don't sing in the shower!! They will shut your water off!!!
I had to chuckle when I read that, but how prophetic.

Think about this the next time you sing "Happy Birthday" snopes.com: Happy Birthday Copyright

The Snopes article states they don't "go after" casual usage, mostly commercial usage, $2million a year, so interpret that as you like.

When is the last time you have ever heard it sung on the telly or radio?
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18 Mar 2012   #37

Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195
 
 

I'm going to search for other ISPs here that don't invade my privacy. On the other note, don't they realize torrents have encryption capabilites? No? Oh well.
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18 Mar 2012   #38

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So, nothing's changed except the policy on warning possible pirates.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by arkhi View Post
I'm going to search for other ISPs here that don't invade my privacy. On the other note, don't they realize torrents have encryption capabilites? No? Oh well.
This, my ISP provider isn't among those who will enforce the new policy. I don't think this will get anywhere, I mean, Peerblock.
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18 Mar 2012   #39

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by arkhi View Post
I'm going to search for other ISPs here that don't invade my privacy. On the other note, don't they realize torrents have encryption capabilites? No? Oh well.
Even with encryption they can tell whether you connected with a torrent. They couldn't tell what you may have downloaded, but that doesn't matter, because they don't have to prove anything...only suspect you.
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18 Mar 2012   #40

Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by arkhi View Post
I'm going to search for other ISPs here that don't invade my privacy. On the other note, don't they realize torrents have encryption capabilites? No? Oh well.
Even with encryption they can tell whether you connected with a torrent. They couldn't tell what you may have downloaded, but that doesn't matter, because they don't have to prove anything...only suspect you.
Yeah, and I could be patching Final Fantasy XIV or World of Warcraft with the new 14 GB exapansions--or I could be downloading a media file a company distributed via torrenting.

This policy just reaks of fail. Companies always assume the worst of things and the reason I am concerned is because it will be more of a hindrance than a benefit to anyone.
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