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Windows 7: American ISPs to launch massive copyright spying scheme on July 12

21 Mar 2012   #71
bigdog2626

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i agree with you it would put a dent in it


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21 Mar 2012   #72
seekermeister

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I remember a video posted in one of the threads of this forum, which mentioned a point that was interesting to me, in that apparently in Canada, they charge an additional tax on optical media, in which a portion goes to the A/V media owners. By doing so, it apparently is not illegal to copy any media in that nation. Not certain how that would work here, but it sounds a lot better than the way things are going now.
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21 Mar 2012   #73
bigdog2626

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I remember a video posted in one of the threads of this forum, which mentioned a point that was interesting to me, in that apparently in Canada, they charge an additional tax on optical media, in which a portion goes to the A/V media owners. By doing so, it apparently is not illegal to copy any media in that nation. Not certain how that would work here, but it sounds a lot better than the way things are going now.
i say the same thing man tax us and move on leave the net alone,free & uncensored
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why not just create a tax and leave internet alone
cable,phone & internet company's can create all kinds of charges but they cant come up with a tax to leave the internet alone
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Fight Back: Congress Pushing Broad Internet Snooping Bill
http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/snooping/
heres some info on that tax http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_copying_levy
also known as blank media tax or levy
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21 Mar 2012   #74
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bigdog2626 View Post
i agree with you it would put a dent in it
Of course it would. The vast majority of casual piracy happens because there are too many obstacles in trying to get the product legit.

Non-technical people don't wake up and say "I wonder what's hot on TPB today lol", they just want to get the stuff they saw trailers for on YouTube or whatever their friends have been posting on Facebook or Twitter or whatever social website of the month is.
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21 Mar 2012   #75
seekermeister

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It should be kept in mind that once a tax is created, there is no real way of controlling it. That is why I would prefer a tax on media, rather than on the internet itself. A media tax should be dedicated, and not placed in the general fund to get "lost". No internet tax for me.
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21 Mar 2012   #76
Colonel Travis

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bigdog2626 View Post
i say the same thing man tax us and move on leave the net alone,free & uncensored
If they do this, the complete opposite will happen. You're asking the same idiots who are meddling now to gain even more control? "Free and uncensored" doesn't exist in their world.

Why on earth do people trust bureaucrats?
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21 Mar 2012   #77
FuturDreamz

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Colonel Travis View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bigdog2626 View Post
i say the same thing man tax us and move on leave the net alone,free & uncensored
If they do this, the complete opposite will happen. You're asking the same idiots who are meddling now to gain even more control? "Free and uncensored" doesn't exist in their world.

Why on earth do people trust bureaucrats?
It depends on the country. After that, some people have an instinctive need to hold irrational faith.
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22 Mar 2012   #78
bigdog2626

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It should be kept in mind that once a tax is created, there is no real way of controlling it.
if im not mistaken your saying there is no way of controlling the tax that we already do pay for sh!t
like the personal property tax you R i pay each & every year you own a house R whatever
there are taxes you pay that is going to things such as ssi,food stamps & medicade
so why not create a tax & just leave the internet alone free&open & the big wigs get the tax that internet users pay i would be 100% fine with it im already paying taxes for a lot of sh!t
how about you
would you be fine with paying the tax & having the net free,open & uncensored ?
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22 Mar 2012   #79
Richardc269

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TanyaC View Post
I don't condone piracy, but I wonder if there might be another dymanic to it.

Here is Australia we are wayyyy behind in some TV series, and some movies never get released on DVD here. There are also lags in getting access to stuff.

An example, The Jesse Stone series of TV movies are not available where I live. Department stores won't order them specially for a person, they have none on the shelves. I can't rent them from video stores in my area (because they just don't have them), and because DVD/BD player manufacturers have made the players region encoded, and for many players "hacks" don't exist, then I can't buy it from Amazon or such, because my player won't play it - wrong region code.

My freedom of choice is already overly controlled by big brother, and my freedoms are being eroded every day.

It's not a matter of willingness to pay for it - availability is also an issue.

So I jumped on a few torrent sites, and usenet sites, and sure enough, there are all seven movies. Sitting there ready to solve my problem. I won;t download them because they will probably be poor quality, or have hardcoded foreign subs., but you get my point.

Even eBay doesn't offer a solution all of the time, as a lot of the stuff is not region 4 DVD or Region B Blu-ray.

I fear that for some, this is incentive enough to get upset enough to download pirated stuff.

The lack of freedom, privacy and availability is infuriating. I wonder if faster and wider availability would help some people resist the urge to pirate?

Just a thought
Tanya
This is one of the main reasons why pirating happens. Availability is just non-existant in some places.

Having no income is why some people pirate as well, but not as high as the reason above.

No matter what the movie/music/game industry does, there is always going to be pirating, and they just need to face the fact that limiting it is only going to make it worse, yet they're dumb enough to keep forcing people to pirate their crap because their greed is overwhelming. (Greed = Fear of being poor, that's what Greed basically is).
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22 Mar 2012   #80
Skulblaka

Windows 8 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Richardc269 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TanyaC View Post
I don't condone piracy, but I wonder if there might be another dymanic to it.

Here is Australia we are wayyyy behind in some TV series, and some movies never get released on DVD here. There are also lags in getting access to stuff.

An example, The Jesse Stone series of TV movies are not available where I live. Department stores won't order them specially for a person, they have none on the shelves. I can't rent them from video stores in my area (because they just don't have them), and because DVD/BD player manufacturers have made the players region encoded, and for many players "hacks" don't exist, then I can't buy it from Amazon or such, because my player won't play it - wrong region code.

My freedom of choice is already overly controlled by big brother, and my freedoms are being eroded every day.

It's not a matter of willingness to pay for it - availability is also an issue.

So I jumped on a few torrent sites, and usenet sites, and sure enough, there are all seven movies. Sitting there ready to solve my problem. I won;t download them because they will probably be poor quality, or have hardcoded foreign subs., but you get my point.

Even eBay doesn't offer a solution all of the time, as a lot of the stuff is not region 4 DVD or Region B Blu-ray.

I fear that for some, this is incentive enough to get upset enough to download pirated stuff.

The lack of freedom, privacy and availability is infuriating. I wonder if faster and wider availability would help some people resist the urge to pirate?

Just a thought
Tanya
This is one of the main reasons why pirating happens. Availability is just non-existant in some places.

Having no income is why some people pirate as well, but not as high as the reason above.

No matter what the movie/music/game industry does, there is always going to be pirating, and they just need to face the fact that limiting it is only going to make it worse, yet they're dumb enough to keep forcing people to pirate their crap because their greed is overwhelming. (Greed = Fear of being poor, that's what Greed basically is).
That's the thing with DLCs, additional game content for MOAR money. Correct me if I'm wrong, Mass Effect 3, content on there that needed unlocking by paying AGAIN for the game.
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