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Windows 7: American ISPs to launch massive copyright spying scheme on July 12

22 Mar 2012   #81
mr pc

Windows 7
 
 

I guess "The Cloud" won't be a fun place after all?

How is this going to affect cloud computing? Like I said there needs to be a comprehensive, legit, and transparent approach to this. Just because people are using bandwidth does not mean they are doing anything illegal.

So how do the ISPs differentiate the two if bandwidth usage is a factor in their suspicions? People are paying for it right?

or what if you're a fan of legitimate free content sites (freeware, music) and dl massive amounts of it? Ya know the whole "apps" craze, cnet, bandcamp type of sites...

How can the ISPs prove they are vetting the data without putting themselves in a position of illegal wiretapping?

And once they prove they can very well know what kind of data is being shared - won't they put themselves into a legal corner by allowing other types of illegal activity to go unanswered?


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22 Mar 2012   #82
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Richardc269 View Post
This is one of the main reasons why pirating happens. Availability is just non-existant in some places.
In some cases, I am sure this is a problem. I'm in the US, and I don't think the overwhelming reason for piracy here is a lack of simply unavailability.

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Having no income is why some people pirate as well, but not as high as the reason above.
I think this depends upon your location. The overwhelming majority of piracy that I know of is for software, music and movies which are readily available, however people don't want to pay for them when they can get them for free.
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22 Mar 2012   #83
TanyaC

Linux Mint 17 Cinnamon | Win 7 Ult x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Richardc269 View Post
This is one of the main reasons why pirating happens. Availability is just non-existant in some places.
In some cases, I am sure this is a problem. I'm in the US, and I don't think the overwhelming reason for piracy here is a lack of simply unavailability.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Richardc269 View Post
Having no income is why some people pirate as well, but not as high as the reason above.
I think this depends upon your location. The overwhelming majority of piracy that I know of is for software, music and movies which are readily available, however people don't want to pay for them when they can get them for free.
I'm in Austalia and availability is a problem accross all categories except for maybe applications. Several times games have not been released in Australia because of censorship. The same goes for occasional movies. Some just aren't released maybe because the sales wont justify the costs.

Its extremely frustrating and I come accross it several times a year.

I'm also on a disability pension and extremely poor, so for me just about everything except costs directly associated with my boys is a luxury. I have plenty of incentive to pirate, and I'm not alone. Most of my friends are in the same situation.
Many elderly people are also in the same situation.

For me, I dont have access to the stuff. I don't have money to buy the stuff, and I sit at home most of the time, so I get bored. If it weren't for the fact that most pirated stuff is terrible quality and full of viruses I could imagine being tempted.
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22 Mar 2012   #84
Trucidation

 

I hear you. As another example, games (specifically, the PSN). We live in the same region so you're probably aware we miss out on a huge ton of content on stuff that only gets released in NA/Europe. It's not like Sony has licensing issues with foreign distributors either; they own the entire damn network. So yeah, it's discrimination for no reason (that we as end users can see). We can buy the same base games but pretty much none of the extras or DLCs.
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22 Mar 2012   #85
JerometheGiraff

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

This is a step towards SOPA, soon the net will be worthless. I won't use the net once it's completely controlled and everything monitored.
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23 Mar 2012   #86
M1GU31

Windows 10 64bit
 
 

Eh im stuck with at&t for another year due to being on a 2 year contract mmm Heard there willing to do this apparently .... :| not entirely sure though
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23 Mar 2012   #87
bigdog2626

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit
 
 

yes att is one of the top K9s on the list
freaking snoops
they ain't going to be able to see what we do in our browsers from what i read its only going to effect torrents and p2p even harder then what is already being done
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And once they prove they can very well know what kind of data is being shared - won't they put themselves into a legal corner by allowing other types of illegal activity to go unanswered?
not only that is going to hurt them once they start the users that ain't going to put up with them spying for the media company's are going to switch company's
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23 Mar 2012   #88
arkhi

Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195
 
 

Agreed with the DLCs. Before, DLCs were games that enhance the current game just as how expansions would. Now, most of it feel like parts of the whole game delibirately cut off just to be sold and make more money.
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23 Mar 2012   #89
M1GU31

Windows 10 64bit
 
 

eh is there a list showing which providers are going to do this and which aren't? Might consider someone else in the future once contract is over if there in my area
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23 Mar 2012   #90
bigdog2626

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit
 
 

i have searched for a entire list and none popped up but there is a small list
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Each ISP has to develop their infrastructure for automating the system,” said Sherman, at a CNet
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Of course the usual suspects are behind this plan including the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and the Motion Picture Association of American (MPAA). The plan is backed by all major ISPs (Comcast, Verizon, Time Warner Cable, Cablevision, AT&T) and has the support of the Obama administration.
if i come across a entire list i will post it here for you
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