| Windows 7: FBI: We need wiretap-ready Web sites -- now |
04 May 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit In a house with a cat trying to kill me |
FBI: We need wiretap-ready Web sites -- now Quote: CNET learns the FBI is quietly pushing its plan to force surveillance backdoors on social networks, VoIP, and Web e-mail providers, and is asking Internet companies not to oppose a law making those backdoors mandatory.
The FBI is asking Internet companies not to oppose a controversial proposal that would require the firms, including Microsoft, Facebook, Yahoo, and Google, to build in backdoors for government surveillance.
In meetings with industry representatives, the White House, and U.S. senators, senior FBI officials argue the dramatic shift in communication from the telephone system to the Internet has made it far more difficult for agents to wiretap Americans suspected of illegal activities, CNET has learned. Read More: FBI: We need wiretap-ready Web sites -- now | Security & Privacy - CNET News | My System Specs |
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05 May 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
What would make anybody believe that governments don't already have back doors? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
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05 May 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 |
Sounds like they want arbitrary access and not have to go through the process of obtaining a warrant to search each web companies contents. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony / IBM / Apple MB Pro 2011 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 CPU i7 QM720 - AMD MV40 - i5 2.3Ghz SB Memory 8GB - 4GB - 8GB Graphics Card Nvidia 310M - ATI 3200M - Intel HD3000 Sound Card Various Monitor(s) Displays Sony 17 inch LCD - 12 inch - 13 inch Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 240Gb
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05 May 2012
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#4 | | Windows 8 Pro with Media Center x64 Southern California, USA |
Many complain simply because they know that they are breaking the law and do not want the law on their front porch. Others complain because they do not want a creepy government spying on them. I suppose there is another group that complains just to complain, but that is discussion for another time...
Say I wanted to join the CIA/FBI/Military/whatever, but had a very bad opinion on any particular current government program/system/whatever. Could my request be denied because of this knowledge?
Or could what I put on the internet, whether I say I am religious, or have been in a divorce, or otherwise appear to them not capable of the job, become a factor in hiring me? Scary thought.
I do not like Big Brother keeping tabs on me. I DO, however, want websites to be restricted when they pose a personal risk to anyone, or knowingly break the law. Now you have to be careful, because it is wrong for the government to block some dissident just because they don't like them. But I belive it is perfectly fine to threaten websites with termination if they send out viruses or break the law. But there has to be some kind of appeal process if the government gets it wrong, cause I'm sure there is plenty that the government would like to 'control' and keep silent.
That is why everyone should think long and hard when laws spring up asking you to give the government more power (in much prettier language). This is especially true with regulatory powers. Though the law may sound good, any goverment is completely capable of majorly restricting the freedoms of its own people. Then we will say "We are the people of our country, the proud, the free", and no one will believe us. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron M5040 OS Windows 8 Pro with Media Center x64 CPU AMD E-450 APU 1.65 GHz Memory 4GB Graphics Card Built-in Radeon HD 6320 Graphics Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 3500 Cooling fan Hard Drives 500GB Internet Speed 2.86Mbps Download Speed, 2.85Mbps Upload Speed & 26ms Ping Antivirus Defender Browser IE10 |
06 May 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 |
Websites already pose a risk to anyone and everyone. The question is the severity of that risk and likelihood of it happening. It's very unrealistic when you expect everyone else to protect you from harm, at some point each individual needs to take it upon themselves to learn a few things about e-life and learn how to manage/reduce/mitigate risks of e-information being used maliciously. There is a theoretical point to how much you can minimize your e-fingerprint online but no way to reduce it to zero in today's world.
Back on point, the FBI is one firm not the nation itself. Many websites contain information for users that're not part of the US and they aren't the world's e-police. No single body or entity should have that sort of arbitrary access, as it was stated in the movie "Dark Knight", that's too much power for 1 person to have (person as a group, entity or firm). Information should always be regarded as "need to know". I don't care if you have super top secret clearance, if you don't have a "need to know" about someone's home address, SSN or birthdate, you have no business knowing unless you have court documents stating otherwise. At least when someone serves me a search warrant, I know I'm being searched. How does anyone know the FBI is doing the right thing when it has the keys to each website? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony / IBM / Apple MB Pro 2011 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 CPU i7 QM720 - AMD MV40 - i5 2.3Ghz SB Memory 8GB - 4GB - 8GB Graphics Card Nvidia 310M - ATI 3200M - Intel HD3000 Sound Card Various Monitor(s) Displays Sony 17 inch LCD - 12 inch - 13 inch Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 240Gb
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07 May 2012
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#6 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE Indian Territory |

Quote: Originally Posted by DustSailor Many complain simply because they know that they are breaking the law and do not want the law on their front porch. Others complain because they do not want a creepy government spying on them. I suppose there is another group that complains just to complain, but that is discussion for another time... There is a fourth group, those that oppose such actions simply because they are wrong. Any type of invasion of privacy can be justified on the basis of the used in propositions such as this, and each step taken takes us one move closer to having the government place observation cameras in our homes, vehicles and work places...shades of "1984". The step after that will be having the government setup entrapment schemes to bait people into their web, like flies that can't see what the spider has spun.
Some might say that this is good, because it is only designed to catch those pesky flies that endanger the rest of us, but the truth is that from the government's point of view, we all are nothing more than flies, gnats, etc., and the government's true motivation is to either control or eliminate any of us as they see fit. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
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07 May 2012
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#7 | | Windows 8 Pro with Media Center x64 Southern California, USA |

Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister 
Quote: Originally Posted by DustSailor Many complain simply because they know that they are breaking the law and do not want the law on their front porch. Others complain because they do not want a creepy government spying on them. I suppose there is another group that complains just to complain, but that is discussion for another time... There is a fourth group, those that oppose such actions simply because they are wrong. Any type of invasion of privacy can be justified on the basis of the used in propositions such as this, and each step taken takes us one move closer to having the government place observation cameras in our homes, vehicles and work places.... Seeker, I sort of lumped that group in with the "...do not want a creepy government spying on them" group.
It is true what the government can do if we give it too much power, that is why we need to reign it in at times. The governmental 'web' should not need to be so big that it interfers with an innocent person's life on a regular basis.
It is kind of like the best security for a PC debate.
You can trade freedoms for additional security and vice versa. The only problem here is the government is often corrupt in places, so to trade freedom for security can be risky business when, as you say, the government gets selfish and views us all as 'flys'.
By "security", I mean protection from malicious people within and outside of the nation. By "freedom", I mean less governmental checkpoints, less government controled spy cams, and the list goes on. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron M5040 OS Windows 8 Pro with Media Center x64 CPU AMD E-450 APU 1.65 GHz Memory 4GB Graphics Card Built-in Radeon HD 6320 Graphics Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 3500 Cooling fan Hard Drives 500GB Internet Speed 2.86Mbps Download Speed, 2.85Mbps Upload Speed & 26ms Ping Antivirus Defender Browser IE10 |
08 May 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 |
This skews off a tad but look at what could happen with online storage companies (cloud). There's a lot of people storing illegal content online but there's also a lot of those who store legit content as well. Cloud storage companies guarantee that your data is safe but how safe is it when the FBI has the keys to the backdoor to the facility? You should know that they aren't concerned about the data being encrypted, if they want to take a peek at your stuff they expect it to be decrypted to be examined.
Megaupload was seized for hosting a ton of illegal content but I'm certain there were quite a few legit customers that lost access to precious data. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony / IBM / Apple MB Pro 2011 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 CPU i7 QM720 - AMD MV40 - i5 2.3Ghz SB Memory 8GB - 4GB - 8GB Graphics Card Nvidia 310M - ATI 3200M - Intel HD3000 Sound Card Various Monitor(s) Displays Sony 17 inch LCD - 12 inch - 13 inch Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 240Gb
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08 May 2012
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#9 | | Win 7 Pro SP1 64 Bit Northeast Ohio |
Thery already can get into any website that they want to, they just want an easy way in. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win 7 Pro SP1 64 Bit CPU Intel Core i7 960 @3.20 GHz Motherboard MSI MS7522 Memory 24.0 GB DDR3 Graphics Card GeForce GTX 460 Monitor(s) Displays LG E2341 23 Inch Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Ms Wireless Mouse MS Optical Wireless PSU 700 Watt Case Haf 912 Cooling Fans Hard Drives 1TB Western Dgital 1002FAEX-00Y9A0
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