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10 May 2012
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| | 64-bit Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 & Windows 8 Enterprise 47,741 posts Texas |
Windows RT's Browser Handling is a "Return to the Digital Dark Ages," Quote: Mozilla isn't mincing words when it comes to Microsoft's decision to limit or restrict the behavior of non-Internet Explorer browsers in Windows RT, the version of Windows 8 intended for systems with ARM hardware inside. In a semi-angry blog post, Mozilla raged against reports that Internet Explorer will be the only browser allowed to run in the privileged 'Windows Classic' environment, calling the move "an unwelcome return to the digital dark ages where users and developers didn't have browser choices." Ouch. Read more at: Maximum PC | Windows RT's Browser Handling is a "Return to the Digital Dark Ages," Mozilla Says | My System Specs |
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10 May 2012
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| | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi 5,150 posts Hafnarfjörður IS |
Hi there
What's the problem with this.
Have you guys ever heard of a company called 'APPLE' which goes out of its way to ensure that anything you buy for these machines not only cost an arm and a leg and conform to no basic standard apart from Apple's own Proprietary stuff and aren't readily available every where`.
Whatever you might feel about Windows it does as far as possible try and make itself "User Friendly" to people writing Drivers etc.
cheers
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10 May 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 148 posts |
Not sure if I agree with that. Apple's iOS standards do accomodate the use of other browsers without jailbreaking however with jailbreaking the options expand even further to include tweaks that may enhance web browsing. For mobile browsers some use Dolphin, Atomic or iCab which offers features (such as gesturing and better tabbed browsing) mobile Safari lacks readily available from the App Store.
Also the comment regarding things costing an arm and a leg pertains to... not sure if you're skewing off the topic or trying to make a relevant point. If you're referring to software then I have to disagree, the price on apps are determined by the author of those apps, not Apple, they merely take a cut which is very understandable. However if you're referring to Apple hardware accessories, then I agree however that's for another discussion and completely off-topic.
Being proprietary is not bad, Windows is not an open-source standard and is proprietary to Microsoft as is iOS for Apple. I can't be sure how MS intends on managing app development and implementation but Apple has proven more than dev-friendly for those wanting to produce apps. The difference is unlike Google and the Android Marketplace (where unsigned apps can make their way into their e-store) Apple examines each app submission then determines whether it's fit to be used in the App Store. That portion has a love-hate issue attached because Apple does have some kind of vision of what's permissionable and what's not. For the most part most people appear to be fine with that, however those who want more do participate in the jailbreak scene. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony / IBM / Apple MB Pro 2011 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 CPU i7 QM720 - AMD MV40 - i5 2.3Ghz SB Memory 8GB - 4GB - 8GB Graphics Card Nvidia 310M - ATI 3200M - Intel HD3000 Sound Card Various Monitor(s) Displays Sony 17 inch LCD - 12 inch - 13 inch Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 240Gb
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10 May 2012
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| | Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1 1,428 posts USA |

Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 Hi there
What's the problem with this.
Have you guys ever heard of a company called 'APPLE' which goes out of its way to ensure that anything you buy for these machines not only cost an arm and a leg and conform to no basic standard apart from Apple's own Proprietary stuff and aren't readily available every where`.
Whatever you might feel about Windows it does as far as possible try and make itself "User Friendly" to people writing Drivers etc.
cheers
jimbo The problem I have with this is that I use my desktops and laptop more than my iPod Touch for a reason. I don't have to jailbreak my desktop to do what I want it to do all of the time. Some of Microsoft's restrictions on Windows 8 (especially the one mentioned above) like not being able to set a wallpaper and you can't turn off metro or install apps without going to the Windows Store are just pathetic. Metro itself is mroe restricted than apple's iOS. If you go to the desktop, then it isn't restricted, but the interface you will be in more and more is Metro. I don't have to buy Windows 8, though. I can keep rockin Windows 7 intil 2020 when the support ends. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion P7-1010 OS Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1 CPU AMD Athlon X4 645 Motherboard Foxxcon N-Alvorix RS880 Memory 6GB DDR3 1066 Graphics Card Sapphire Radeon HD 5670 512MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP 2011x Screen Resolution 1600x900 Keyboard HP OEM- Made by Chicony Mouse HP OEM- Made by Logitech PSU Seasonic S12 II Bronze 380 Watt Case HP OEM Cooling Coolermaster Heatsink, AVC Case Fan Hard Drives 1. Crucial M4 128GB SSD
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10 May 2012
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| | Windows 7 x64 (SP1) 5,254 posts |
I hope you guys realize Windows RT is what is put on tablets, ARM tablets. The Classic mode they are talking about is more of a emulation of x86 code on ARM. Its meant for transitioning older stuff to ARM's code base. ARM and x86 processors are so far apart...By the very nature of ARM-based tablets they are almost exclusively OEM based systems. You can build you own if you like to solider and piece together lumps of circuit boards. Otherwise a tablet based on an Intel Atom processor is more likely your thing. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware Aurora ALX R4 OS Windows 7 x64 (SP1) CPU Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz, Turbo 4GHz) Motherboard Alienware Aurora-R4 x79 Memory 4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz) Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce GTX 690 (Stock) Sound Card RealTek Integrated Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U3011 Screen Resolution 2560x1600 PSU 875W Some Dell PSU <.< Hard Drives Samsung P830 256 GB, WD Raptor 150GB, 2x 1TB HDDs Other Info Dell Inspiron Mini 10v (Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz; 1GB; Windows 7 Ultimate) |
10 May 2012
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| | Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1 1,428 posts USA |

Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth I hope you guys realize Windows RT is what is put on tablets, ARM tablets. The Classic mode they are talking about is more of a emulation of x86 code on ARM. Its meant for transitioning older stuff to ARM's code base. ARM and x86 processors are so far apart... Yea, I know. I was just stating some other problems I had with Windows 8. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion P7-1010 OS Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1 CPU AMD Athlon X4 645 Motherboard Foxxcon N-Alvorix RS880 Memory 6GB DDR3 1066 Graphics Card Sapphire Radeon HD 5670 512MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP 2011x Screen Resolution 1600x900 Keyboard HP OEM- Made by Chicony Mouse HP OEM- Made by Logitech PSU Seasonic S12 II Bronze 380 Watt Case HP OEM Cooling Coolermaster Heatsink, AVC Case Fan Hard Drives 1. Crucial M4 128GB SSD
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10 May 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 409 posts |
The Metro UI is intended for ARM tablets, not for Desktop, laptop, or slate users. It's a Start Screen, the next evolution of the start menu. You wouldn't have your start menu open all the time and navigate through that, now would you? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Athlon 240 II @ 2.8-4.004 ghz Motherboard M4A78LT-M LE Memory SuperTalent 4gb DDR3 Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3000HD Screen Resolution 1440*900 Case Re-modded Dell Dimension 4550 Cooling Vantec 92mm Tornado x2 Other Info It looks pretty. |
10 May 2012
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| | Windows 8 Pro (32-bit) 1,639 posts Lethbridge, AB |

Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth I hope you guys realize Windows RT is what is put on tablets, ARM tablets. The Classic mode they are talking about is more of a emulation of x86 code on ARM. Its meant for transitioning older stuff to ARM's code base. ARM and x86 processors are so far apart...By the very nature of ARM-based tablets they are almost exclusively OEM based systems. You can build you own if you like to solider and piece together lumps of circuit boards. Otherwise a tablet based on an Intel Atom processor is more likely your thing. Pretty much. Microsoft doesn't want you using the legacy environment on Windows RT, and only includes it to ensure compatibility with important non-Metro Windows components, Microsoft Office, And outdated websites or websites that need multiple windows.
I just checked and there are many applications that have not made it to Metro with all features (such as Notepad) | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple 17" iMac MA199LL (Early 2006) OS Windows 8 Pro (32-bit) CPU 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo Memory 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300) (upgrade) Graphics Card ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB GDDR3 memory Monitor(s) Displays 17-inch TFT active-matrix LCD, millions of colors Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 Keyboard Microsoft Wired Keyboard 600 Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 Hard Drives Hitachi 320GB HDT721032SLA360 7200RPM SATA II (upgrade) Internet Speed 4 Mbps Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Google Chrome Other Info WEI:
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