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Windows 7: Windows RT's Browser Handling is a "Return to the Digital Dark Ages,"

10 May 2012   #1
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 
Windows RT's Browser Handling is a "Return to the Digital Dark Ages,"

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Mozilla isn't mincing words when it comes to Microsoft's decision to limit or restrict the behavior of non-Internet Explorer browsers in Windows RT, the version of Windows 8 intended for systems with ARM hardware inside. In a semi-angry blog post, Mozilla raged against reports that Internet Explorer will be the only browser allowed to run in the privileged 'Windows Classic' environment, calling the move "an unwelcome return to the digital dark ages where users and developers didn't have browser choices." Ouch.
Read more at:
Maximum PC | Windows RT's Browser Handling is a "Return to the Digital Dark Ages," Mozilla Says


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10 May 2012   #2
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there
What's the problem with this.

Have you guys ever heard of a company called 'APPLE' which goes out of its way to ensure that anything you buy for these machines not only cost an arm and a leg and conform to no basic standard apart from Apple's own Proprietary stuff and aren't readily available every where`.

Whatever you might feel about Windows it does as far as possible try and make itself "User Friendly" to people writing Drivers etc.

cheers
jimbo
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10 May 2012   #3
Stratos

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8
 
 

Not sure if I agree with that. Apple's iOS standards do accomodate the use of other browsers without jailbreaking however with jailbreaking the options expand even further to include tweaks that may enhance web browsing. For mobile browsers some use Dolphin, Atomic or iCab which offers features (such as gesturing and better tabbed browsing) mobile Safari lacks readily available from the App Store.

Also the comment regarding things costing an arm and a leg pertains to... not sure if you're skewing off the topic or trying to make a relevant point. If you're referring to software then I have to disagree, the price on apps are determined by the author of those apps, not Apple, they merely take a cut which is very understandable. However if you're referring to Apple hardware accessories, then I agree however that's for another discussion and completely off-topic.

Being proprietary is not bad, Windows is not an open-source standard and is proprietary to Microsoft as is iOS for Apple. I can't be sure how MS intends on managing app development and implementation but Apple has proven more than dev-friendly for those wanting to produce apps. The difference is unlike Google and the Android Marketplace (where unsigned apps can make their way into their e-store) Apple examines each app submission then determines whether it's fit to be used in the App Store. That portion has a love-hate issue attached because Apple does have some kind of vision of what's permissionable and what's not. For the most part most people appear to be fine with that, however those who want more do participate in the jailbreak scene.
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10 May 2012   #4
windude99

Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi there
What's the problem with this.

Have you guys ever heard of a company called 'APPLE' which goes out of its way to ensure that anything you buy for these machines not only cost an arm and a leg and conform to no basic standard apart from Apple's own Proprietary stuff and aren't readily available every where`.

Whatever you might feel about Windows it does as far as possible try and make itself "User Friendly" to people writing Drivers etc.

cheers
jimbo
The problem I have with this is that I use my desktops and laptop more than my iPod Touch for a reason. I don't have to jailbreak my desktop to do what I want it to do all of the time. Some of Microsoft's restrictions on Windows 8 (especially the one mentioned above) like not being able to set a wallpaper and you can't turn off metro or install apps without going to the Windows Store are just pathetic. Metro itself is mroe restricted than apple's iOS. If you go to the desktop, then it isn't restricted, but the interface you will be in more and more is Metro. I don't have to buy Windows 8, though. I can keep rockin Windows 7 intil 2020 when the support ends.
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10 May 2012   #5
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

I hope you guys realize Windows RT is what is put on tablets, ARM tablets. The Classic mode they are talking about is more of a emulation of x86 code on ARM. Its meant for transitioning older stuff to ARM's code base. ARM and x86 processors are so far apart...By the very nature of ARM-based tablets they are almost exclusively OEM based systems. You can build you own if you like to solider and piece together lumps of circuit boards. Otherwise a tablet based on an Intel Atom processor is more likely your thing.
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10 May 2012   #6
windude99

Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth View Post
I hope you guys realize Windows RT is what is put on tablets, ARM tablets. The Classic mode they are talking about is more of a emulation of x86 code on ARM. Its meant for transitioning older stuff to ARM's code base. ARM and x86 processors are so far apart...
Yea, I know. I was just stating some other problems I had with Windows 8.
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10 May 2012   #7
Coke Robot

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

The Metro UI is intended for ARM tablets, not for Desktop, laptop, or slate users. It's a Start Screen, the next evolution of the start menu. You wouldn't have your start menu open all the time and navigate through that, now would you?
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10 May 2012   #8
FuturDreamz

Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth View Post
I hope you guys realize Windows RT is what is put on tablets, ARM tablets. The Classic mode they are talking about is more of a emulation of x86 code on ARM. Its meant for transitioning older stuff to ARM's code base. ARM and x86 processors are so far apart...By the very nature of ARM-based tablets they are almost exclusively OEM based systems. You can build you own if you like to solider and piece together lumps of circuit boards. Otherwise a tablet based on an Intel Atom processor is more likely your thing.
Pretty much. Microsoft doesn't want you using the legacy environment on Windows RT, and only includes it to ensure compatibility with important non-Metro Windows components, Microsoft Office, And outdated websites or websites that need multiple windows.

I just checked and there are many applications that have not made it to Metro with all features (such as Notepad)
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