Microsoft to remove crapware from OEM machines for $99

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  1. Posts : 5,941
    Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
       #20

    Hi there
    The EU should follow through what they started -- you get this REDICULOUS system wherby the user has to say what browser they want to use -- but if I buy a PC I DON'T get the OS --except on some stupid hidden partition which even if it works at all is laden with everything that you don't possibly want.

    I also LOATHE witha passion any "Demo" or "Trialware" since the features you invariably might want to use are "Not available in the demo version" in any case.

    It should be 100% ILLEGAL to supply a PC without the install disk / install media of a RETAIL version of the OS if a commercial OS is being supplied or a freebie if it's Linux or other. Customers choice.

    I don't think a few extra dollars on the cost of a PC will stop people buying one if they are in the market --and if you are going to pay 100 USD for "Crapware removal" you could probably have got a retail version of Windows legally for less than that anyway.

    The last time I actually visted a physical store to get a PC I asked --AND GOT a free copy of Windows 7 PRO thrown in --just ask the manager --even in chain stores the local manager has more "say" than you might think. Most people are usually too scared to ask -- but the worst that can happen is that they say no. Usually - especially these days- you get a sympathetic answer --even if you don't get a FREE retail copy you can usually walk out with a 20 USD copy thrown in. !! Always be prepared to do a little haggling -- even in "Beverley Hills LA".

    Not sure how it works in the US --but maybe the EU commission should actually bare it's teeth for once.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  2. Posts : 7,878
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #21

    Layback Bear said:
    I think it can be simpler. By a P/C or Laptop without a operating system. Then by the operating system and install. Now you have a new computer and a clean operating system.
    The typical issue is trying to find a computer, prebuilt from an OEM that doesn't include an OS. A dedicated computer shop, might sell you a built from parts desktop this way...but laptops are not assembled from parts. You won't find a desktop/laptp in a retail brick and morter store that doesn't already have Windows pre-installed.
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  3. Posts : 16,161
    7 X64
       #22

    Like it.

    TanyaC said:
    jumanji said:
    Microsoft to charge customers $99 to remove OEM 'crapware'

    Microsoft to charge customers $99 to remove OEM 'crapware' | ZDNet

    I have no comments - except I will neither support Microsoft nor the OEMs on this issue..:)
    So for $99 I could get Metro removed from Windows 8?

    Might almost be worth it.

    Oh, Metro is not OEM. Darn it!!
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  4. Posts : 1,533
    Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1
       #23

    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there
    The EU should follow through what they started -- you get this REDICULOUS system wherby the user has to say what browser they want to use -- but if I buy a PC I DON'T get the OS --except on some stupid hidden partition which even if it works at all is laden with everything that you don't possibly want.

    I also LOATHE witha passion any "Demo" or "Trialware" since the features you invariably might want to use are "Not available in the demo version" in any case.

    It should be 100% ILLEGAL to supply a PC without the install disk / install media of a RETAIL version of the OS if a commercial OS is being supplied or a freebie if it's Linux or other. Customers choice.

    I don't think a few extra dollars on the cost of a PC will stop people buying one if they are in the market --and if you are going to pay 100 USD for "Crapware removal" you could probably have got a retail version of Windows legally for less than that anyway.

    The last time I actually visted a physical store to get a PC I asked --AND GOT a free copy of Windows 7 PRO thrown in --just ask the manager --even in chain stores the local manager has more "say" than you might think. Most people are usually too scared to ask -- but the worst that can happen is that they say no. Usually - especially these days- you get a sympathetic answer --even if you don't get a FREE retail copy you can usually walk out with a 20 USD copy thrown in. !! Always be prepared to do a little haggling -- even in "Beverley Hills LA".

    Not sure how it works in the US --but maybe the EU commission should actually bare it's teeth for once.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I agree with you, totally. I wish that could happen in the U.S. also. At this point, I just buy a pc and make the recovery discs in case anything goes wrong. Then, I nuke everything that was on the hard drive that came from the OEM and put a fresh copy of Windows on it.
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  5. Posts : 230
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
       #24

    I dont see how they get away with this. ripping people off is all it is.

    Also some people have said with the use of that program you can remove "most" of the bloatware and crap. What can ya not remove?? I mean for anyone with a small bit of computing knowledge and defo for most of the users on here it should be a simple task should it not?? Just use the program to remove all the crap and stuff that is not needed? Is there other stuff that a program like that can miss or is unable to remove??

    Now if i was to do this i would use "Your Uninstaller" I have always used this to remove the "crap". Seems like this is more or less the same type of software is it?? I might give this other one a go.

    This being said tho that is only if a fresh install is not an option. What i prefer to do on my own system is just format the disk and install fresh, no bloatware, no crap, decent running system.

    So what are they charging for that most of us on here could do in a hour or so???
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  6. Posts : 53,365
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #25

    Your Uninstaller would work great, that's what I have as well. It's just PC Decrapifier is specifically designed to remove the crapware installed on many new systems. It isn't better, just specific. A Guy
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  7. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #26
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  8. Posts : 230
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
       #27

    Ok thanks Guy. I might just give that other one a shot and see how it goes!
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  9. Posts : 133
    windows 7 x64 pro sp1
       #28

    i bought this machine and it was preloaded with bloatware. first thing i did was grab the drivers i needed. put them on my usb stick and formatted my drives. when done i had my main drive with the OS and needed drivers installed. and updates only took 24.6 gigs
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  10. Posts : 2,292
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
       #29

    Many people can't be bothered with learning that stuff; it's either not interesting to them or they just don't understand it, to put it politely (the latter being even more true), so they'd rather cough up the dough and be done with it...

    Or they'll go and buy a Mac xD
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