| Windows 7: Microsoft to remove crapware from OEM machines for $99 |
18 Jun 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 8,025 posts |

Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear That particular link is a thread from back in 2007. | My System Specs |
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18 Jun 2012
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 8,766 posts Northern Ohio |
My point is simple. If one wants a computer with a clean install; to me their are four choices.
1. Buy or build a computer without a operating system and do a clean install.
2. Buy a built computer with operating system and then do a clean install.
3. Buy a built computer with operating system and pay some one to do a clean install.
4. One could buy a computer with operation system and the trash that comes with it and learn to like it. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
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18 Jun 2012
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. (On both machines) 239 posts Lincolnshire, UK. |
Manufacturer bloatware is a bigger problem on Laptops. 2.5 years ago, I did not have the knowledge & expertise I now have (thanks in part to this Forum)
I bought a HP Pavilion DV7 for the missus, although I used it from time to time. After a few months, and several complaints about the krap that HP installed on it, the wife (demanded) -er-requested- that I do something about it. So I read the tutorial previously mentioned, with the intention of de-krapping the lappy. Then I thought better of it and backed up the relevant stuff, before carrying out a complete reinstall of Windows 7. Result: machine hums along nicely, one happy-with-the-lappy wife.
I think we tend to view what MS has done here, through the eyes of experienced PC users. Redmond knows exactly what they are doing here: lots of inexperienced computer users, will take up this offer. (If you know of one, you can make them a better offer. I know I will!)
Having said all that, I have to admit that $99 is a heck of a lot of money for this service. In some cases, it may be around 30% of the original purchase price. But my real gripes are (a) will it make it to the UK and (b) will it be the usual practice of ignoring exchange rates and going straight to £99?
That is what usually happens here with US-UK exchange rates, in relation to buying from a US source. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number (PC) Gigabyte EG41MFT-US2H Self build. (Laptop) HP Dv7. OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. (On both machines) CPU (PC) Intel Quad Core Q6600: (Laptop) Turion II M520 Motherboard PC: as above. Laptop (HP System Board) 3639 33.23 Memory PC: Corsair DDR3 4GB Corsair Laptop: DDR-2 Micron 800 4 GB. Graphics Card ATI Asus HD6770: Laptop: ATI Mobile Radeon 4500. Sound Card Onboard. Monitor(s) Displays PC: Lyama Prolite E2407HDS 24" Laptop 17" Screen Resolution PC: 1920x1080. Laptop:1600x900 Keyboard Logitech MK 250 wireless. Mouse PC: Logitech MK 250 wireless. Laptop: Logitech Wireless M235 PSU OCZ 550 GX. Laptop - ? Case Black Coolermaster Centurion 5 II. Cooling 2x120 mm. Coolermaster front & rear: 120mm. CM side fan. Hard Drives Pc: WD 5000AAKS (O/s, Photos, Files.)
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18 Jun 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 8,025 posts |

Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear My point is simple. If one wants a computer with a clean install; to me their are four choices.
1. Buy or build a computer without a operating system and do a clean install.
2. Buy a built computer with operating system and then do a clean install.
3. Buy a built computer with operating system and pay some one to do a clean install.
4. One could buy a computer with operation system and the trash that comes with it and learn to like it. Agreed, I wasn't intending to argue. I'm just saying that for the average person who doesn't build on their own, getting a box without an OS isn't usually a standard option for them. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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18 Jun 2012
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 92 posts |
This $99 Microsoft "service" smacks of PT Barnum. Yeah, I guess they are "entitled" to charge the unsuspecting public, but is it really ethical? | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |
18 Jun 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service Pack 1 10,506 posts Doncaster, UK |
That is open to debate. From my point of view, I think that they are quite within their rights to charge for this service. They are not responsible for the bloatware that computer manufacturers install, so why should they remove it for free? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Dwarf Dwf/11/2012 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service Pack 1 CPU Intel Core-i5-3570K 4-core @ 3.4GHz (Ivy Bridge) (OC 4.2GHz) Motherboard ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M Memory 4 x 4GB DDR3-1600 Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B (16GB) Graphics Card 2 x AMD Radeon HD7770 1GB CrossFired (OC 1100MHz/1250MHz) Sound Card Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 898) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen (VGA) Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 3000 (USB) Mouse Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000 for Business (USB) PSU XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular Case Gigabyte IF233 Cooling 1 x 120mm Front Inlet 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust Hard Drives OCZ Agility 3 SSD 120GB SATA III x2 (RAID 0)
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18 Jun 2012
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| | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi 5,149 posts Hafnarfjörður IS |
Hi there
It's a commercial service -- you AREN'T forced to use it -- I know I wouldn't -- cheaper to buy a retail copy of Windows and re-install. However it's unfortunate that most people wouldn't realize this or can't install an OS .
Look at those totally EVIL payday loan companies that operate quite legally in the UK -- charging rates that even the Mafia might baulk at --
Wonga for example up to 3000% Interest (yes no typo here). At least these sorts of companies are banned in the rest of the EU and EEA - so it's not all bad in Euroland.
Those payday loan companies target individuals usually educationally challenged who for one reason or another don't know any better and the spiral of debt goes on and the poor hapless individuals sink further into the abyss while the courts and the "suited Lawyers" make even more money.
I'm not blaming MS -- just the poor educational system which leaves individuals open to exploitation of this sort of stuff.
Believe me --"Education might be Expensive -- but the price of Ignorance is Stratospheric".
Cheers
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18 Jun 2012
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit 5,681 posts In a house with a cat trying to kill me |
Five apps for crapware cleanup Five apps for crapware cleanup Quote: If you buy new PCs from OEMs, you are probably all too familiar with the plague known as “crapware”: the useless applications that come installed with Windows. Crapware wastes space, often ties up your RAM and CPU power, and can be a major hassle to get rid up. Luckily, there’s a solution. These five applications will help you deal with the crapware quickly and safely. Five apps for crapware cleanup | TechRepublic | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Hell oh Well OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo 2.93GHz Memory Not much with my ADHD Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4350 Monitor(s) Displays I have one...It's bright. A 19 inch CRT actually. Keyboard It's 10 years old and amazingly still works Mouse Same deal with the mouse, 10 yrs old, if it ain't broke... Case Don't get on my case...man :D Cooling I have an Air Conditioner & Diet Pepsi Hard Drives 250 GB Main Drive, 2 - 1 TB Externals, various FD's. |
18 Jun 2012
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 32,110 posts Bay Area Peninsula |
Hell, the Geek Squad charges at least this much. People go to them all the time, even pay them to come out. If they don't know PCs, or have a geeky friend, they don't know what else to do. A Guy | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHz Motherboard ASUS P7P55D Memory KINGSTON 4GB (2 x 2GB) HyperX PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL8 Graphics Card MSI N240GT-MD1G/D5 GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster B2430H 24" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 PSU ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W Case ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 4 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Noctua's Hard Drives Intel X25M Gen2 80GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache Internet Speed 20 + Mbps Antivirus Avast Browser Opera Microsoft to remove crapware from OEM machines for $99 problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:45 PM. | |