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Windows 7: Gary Kovacs: Tracking the trackers

02 Jun 2012   #11
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

How is Ghostery and DNT+ any different than the already built-in feature of IE's Inprivate Filtering? Seems like just another level of bloatware.


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02 Jun 2012   #12
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

I never use IE, so all I can say is an assumtion...that being it is like using a private tab in Opera, and all that does is to delete any info about the websites and your activity when you are finished...with nothing to do with preventing tracking, as we are discussing. In other words, the private tab is to prevent some that has access to your computer from tracking your activity, but not outsiders.
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02 Jun 2012   #13
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

That's not what Inprivate Filtering does. It doesn't "delete" anything, it's like a blocker. But I know nothing about Opera so we're even.
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02 Jun 2012   #14
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Sounds like it deletes it to me:

InPrivate Browsing - Microsoft Windows

I also found some info about handling outside tracking in IE, but it kind of sounds a bit tedious to me:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/i...ing-protection
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02 Jun 2012   #15
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

I said Inprivate Filtering, not Browsing. There's a difference.

Here's a screen shot of the options


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02 Jun 2012   #16
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Okay, I stand corrected. Reading the comment in that window, it sounds as though it has the same problem that Ghostery had with crippling some websites. Have you had much problem with it?
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02 Jun 2012   #17
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

Only on the NBA site. But I don't get out much.
You can turn it on/off with a click on the icon in the bottom-right of the screen. (Next to Zoom %) The advanced settings allow you to add additional filters via XML but the standard filters are "learned".

BTW - I would rather cripple a website than have it load intrusive scripts. I do the same with Flash Player. I pick what sites are allowed to do. If hit a site while browsing and it's blocked or crippled, I usually don't need to see it anyway.
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03 Jun 2012   #18
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

I have available to me (x64 HomePrem)
1) Tracking Protection Lists (add-ons),
2) Active X Filtering
3) InPrivate Browsing
--> but no InPrivate Filtering
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by carwiz View Post
I said Inprivate Filtering, not Browsing ...

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by WinHelp
How do I turn InPrivate Filtering on and off?
By default, InPrivate Filtering analyzes the websites you visit and the content providers they use, but does not automatically block them. You can choose to allow or block any content provider that InPrivate Filtering identifies as receiving information about your browsing. Alternatively, you can have InPrivate Filtering automatically block any content provider, or you can turn off InPrivate Filtering.

To turn on InPrivate Filtering for the first time, follow these steps:
  • Click to open Internet Explorer.
  • Click the Safety button
  • Click InPrivate Filtering
  • then do one of the following:
    • Click Block for me to block websites automatically.
    • Click Let me choose which providers receive my information to choose content to block or allow.
When you're finished, click OK.
If you've already turned on InPrivate Filtering, follow these steps:
  • Click to open Internet Explorer.
  • Click the Safety button
  • Click InPrivate Filtering Settings.
  • then do one of the following:
    • To automatically block websites, click Automatically block.
    • To manually block websites, click Choose content to block or allow.
    • To turn off InPrivate Filtering, click Off.
    Click OK.
There are two things that I don't quite understand
1) Where's the Safety Button (my customization hidden?), I'm looking at the safety menu in tools (gear) instead
2) Is filtering only available on > Home versions?

Anyway, it sounds as though it is the solution I've been looking for, at least in IE. Sorry, I couldn't grab (anyone know a trick to snip a menu that rolls up?) the drop down menu in IE safety that doesn't list InPriv filtering

Delete history
InPrivate Browsing
Tracking Protection (-> add-ons)
Name Privacy Online
Status Enabled
Address http://www.privacyonline.org.uk/down...online-btl.tpl
Active X Filtering
.......


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03 Jun 2012   #19
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Answering "Where is the safety button?" - yep, I turned off the Command toolbar.

I dunno, I was blonde as a child, but I cannot find InPrivate Filtering

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Microsoft
InPrivate: frequently asked questions
This information applies to Windows Internet Explorer 8.
Applies to these editions of Windows Vista:
...Starter
...Home Basic
...Home Premium
...Ultimate
...Enterprise

Internet Explorer 9 features

Fast
...Performance improvements
Clean
...New Tab page
...Notification Bar
...One Box
...Pinned Sites
...Tab enhancements
...Web-focused browsing
...Windows 7 integration
Trusted
...ActiveX Filtering
...Add-on Performance Advisor
...Compatibility View
...Cross-site scripting filter
...Domain highlighting
...Download Manager
...InPrivate Browsing
...SmartScreen Filter
...Tab isolation and recovery
...Tracking Protection

Security and privacy features in Internet Explorer 9
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03 Jun 2012   #20
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

I couldn't recall which site I used to wholesale opt-out, but I looked (as promised) and found more than I remember being available many years ago. I'm fairly certain that I used NAI or CDT or both. The trouble is that I clean my browser history on exit and that defeats the opt-out which is cookie based. I've looked at some of the add-ons and will try a few (one at a time), but what I've read so far is that many of them depend on cookies as well. More research needed.....

Please read the facts on any or all of the pages listed below. It's a lot, I know, but why trust me? Besides, it's nice to know what the organization intends to do to help you, doesn't it?

Organizations concerned about privacy:Offers tool or add-on: PrivacyChoice.org

Companies in the business of collecting data offering opt-outs:
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