| Windows 7: Thunderbolt vs. USB, HDMI, PCIe Cable: How does it compare? |
25 Jun 2012
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#11 | | Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64 Wanderer |
Agree, eSATA is the best way to go for external HDD.
Thunderbolt's first hurdle is cost, if too expensive the vast majority of users won't pay for it given a choice, the second is cost vs productivity increase which is subjective.
For my personal laptop/desktop the speed increase won't justify the cost at this time.
For a small percentage of business laptops/desktops it may be viable.
It does have potential for improving SSD performance.
If the cost is reduced and it becomes a standard, bringing the cost down further, it has a shot.
As far as a technological performance increase it's a great idea. | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number 76~2.0 OS Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64 CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 4.6GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X UD3H, f18 Memory 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 1600 Corsair Vengeance CL8 1.5v Graphics Card Sapphire HD 7770 Vapor-X OC 1GB DDR5 Sound Card Onboard VIA VT2021 Monitor(s) Displays 22" LCD Dell Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse CM Sentinel PSU Corsair HX650W Case Cooler Master Storm Scout Cooling Corsair H80 2x12cm Noctua NF P12 , 2x14cm case fans Hard Drives Samsung 840Pro 128GB SSD,
Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Internet Speed Dismal Antivirus Avast Browser Opera Next Other Info eSATA ports,
External eSATA Seagate 500GB SATA2 7200rpm,
External USB WD 500GB |
26 Jun 2012
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#12 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
Their are two markets.
1. If its faster I want it.
2. If its faster and I need it I want it.
Number 2 being the larger. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
Sound system
KLipsch-THX
Asus Router RTN-12
2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
Malwarebytes Anti Malware Professional
Windows 7 Firewall |
27 Jun 2012
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#13 | | Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center 64bit Covington, La |
Looks like Thunderbolt is going mainstream. ASUS P8Z77-V Premium
Click on the video. Its long winded but interesting.
Jim
Last edited by Phone Man; 27 Jun 2012 at 05:37 PM..
| My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center 64bit CPU Phenom II X6 1100T Motherboard ASUS M5A99X EVO Memory Crucial Balistic 8gb DDR3-1866 CL9 Graphics Card MSI R6850 Cyclone IGD5 PE Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VE258Q 25" LED with DVI-HDMI-DisplayPort Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K120 Mouse Logitech Marble Mouse USB, Logitech Precision Game Pad PSU Seasonic X650 80 Plus GOLD Modular Case Corsair 400R Cooling Antec Kuhler H2O 620, Two 120mm and four 140mm Hard Drives Two WD Cavier Black 2TB Sata III, WD My Book Essential 2TB USB 3.0 Internet Speed 15MB Antivirus Norton IS 2012, Malwarebytes Pro Browser IE-10, FF-19 Other Info APC UPS ES 750, Netgear WNR3500L Gigabit & Wireless N Router with SamKnows Test Program, Motorola SB6120 Gigabit Cable Modem. Brother HL-2170W Laser Printer, Epson V300 Scanner |
30 Jun 2012
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#14 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |

Quote: Originally Posted by lkgriffith At least the manufacturer of the system no longer has to spend $0.69 for an extra SATA port. That means they can save $69.00 of the reduction in profit that represents. After all, the customer doesn't know they have a times ten multiplier on the cost of materials added to the final price. The interesting thing is that this will work until the competition discovers they can more than make up for the difference by charging the end customer $40.00 less. Soon the savings will become negative because the customer base will discover value delivered can be had at a much lower price.
That is how it is possible that we can buy a four pound portable battery powered super computer for under $500 that can blow away a multi mega dollar super computer of a decade ago.
The moral to this story is to wait a generation of technology and then buy a second level system. Leave the top of the line on the table. You don't need it. If your ego does, be prepared to spend through the nose for equipment that will become obsolete in less than six months.
This message is created on an eight year old computer with expanded memory taken from old and burned out computer equipment, a for year old low cost graphics card plugged into its second system, and a three year low cost 500 gig ATA drive also plugged into its second system. Running a $50 Windows 7 Home Premium OS also on its second system. The last out of pocket expense was the $50 for Windows 7 at introduction. It works great for my purposes.
Viva la competition!
PS: Windows 8 release preview won't install on my hardware. No problem. I don't want it clogging my system and wouldn't use it if I were able to. I do have it installed as a second partition OS on a four year old laptop for evaluation. It won't be used as a production system. Hi there
true to a point -- but why not get the best of BOTH worlds
shell out for a 120 GB SSD which you can move to another machine when you need it -- and that old clonker of yours will race again !!.
SSD's will improve almost ANY system --often the improvement is dramatic on OLDER equipment --it's very rarely lack of processing power that causes poor performance on home computers.
Cheers
jimbo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi CPU Q9400 QUAD Motherboard P5QL-CM Memory 8GB Graphics Card On Motherborad Sound Card Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Apple Cinema display Mouse Toshiba wireless laser Hard Drives 4 X 1TB SATA Internet Speed > 20MB up |
10 Jul 2012
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#15 | | Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center 64bit Covington, La |
Interesting review of Apple display with Ethernet, Firewire and USB ports feed by one Thunderbolt cable. The display has ETH, FW and USB controllers built in and uses the PCIe feed of Thunderbolt. The screen uses DisplayPort over Thunderbolt.
The display acts as a docking station for Laptops so you only need one port to run your external devices.
Apple had a 1 yr exclusive on Thunderbolt but that has expired. AnandTech - The Apple Thunderbolt Display Review
Jim | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center 64bit CPU Phenom II X6 1100T Motherboard ASUS M5A99X EVO Memory Crucial Balistic 8gb DDR3-1866 CL9 Graphics Card MSI R6850 Cyclone IGD5 PE Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VE258Q 25" LED with DVI-HDMI-DisplayPort Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K120 Mouse Logitech Marble Mouse USB, Logitech Precision Game Pad PSU Seasonic X650 80 Plus GOLD Modular Case Corsair 400R Cooling Antec Kuhler H2O 620, Two 120mm and four 140mm Hard Drives Two WD Cavier Black 2TB Sata III, WD My Book Essential 2TB USB 3.0 Internet Speed 15MB Antivirus Norton IS 2012, Malwarebytes Pro Browser IE-10, FF-19 Other Info APC UPS ES 750, Netgear WNR3500L Gigabit & Wireless N Router with SamKnows Test Program, Motorola SB6120 Gigabit Cable Modem. Brother HL-2170W Laser Printer, Epson V300 Scanner |
11 Jul 2012
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#17 | | Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center 64bit Covington, La |

Quote: Originally Posted by Runckle_SP1 This has no bearing on HDMI that I can see! The current setup of Thunderbolt has DisplayPort channel which competes with HDMI.
Jim | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center 64bit CPU Phenom II X6 1100T Motherboard ASUS M5A99X EVO Memory Crucial Balistic 8gb DDR3-1866 CL9 Graphics Card MSI R6850 Cyclone IGD5 PE Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VE258Q 25" LED with DVI-HDMI-DisplayPort Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K120 Mouse Logitech Marble Mouse USB, Logitech Precision Game Pad PSU Seasonic X650 80 Plus GOLD Modular Case Corsair 400R Cooling Antec Kuhler H2O 620, Two 120mm and four 140mm Hard Drives Two WD Cavier Black 2TB Sata III, WD My Book Essential 2TB USB 3.0 Internet Speed 15MB Antivirus Norton IS 2012, Malwarebytes Pro Browser IE-10, FF-19 Other Info APC UPS ES 750, Netgear WNR3500L Gigabit & Wireless N Router with SamKnows Test Program, Motorola SB6120 Gigabit Cable Modem. Brother HL-2170W Laser Printer, Epson V300 Scanner |
11 Jul 2012
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So instead of having 2 cables to your HD tv you have one. | My System Specs | | Thunderbolt vs. USB, HDMI, PCIe Cable: How does it compare? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:59 AM. | |