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Windows 7: Judges tosses Apple v. Motorola


23 Jun 2012   #1

Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1
 
 
Judges tosses Apple v. Motorola

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A U.S. judge has tossed out the Apple v. Motorola patent case for good, according to reports.
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Judges tosses Apple v. Motorola | Mobile - CNET News

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23 Jun 2012   #2

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Hopefully this legal shit will slow down...
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24 Jun 2012   #3

W7 X-64 W8.1 X-64 Opensuse 13.1 W2003 Server
 
 

Hi there
There was another one in Holland where Apple and Samsung are fighting it out (again)

Why for once can't the LAWYERS go on strike. !! Everybody else seems to be doing it these days.
Some of this legal horse sh__e should just be replied to with a ONE LINE respone as follows. --

"Don't Care --Had enough-- Not Paying -----what are you going to do about it....end of"

what are they going to do -- send Bailiff's to S. Korea or China to seize the factories. !!! I'm sure they'd be treated with the total utter comtempt that they no doubt duely and justly deserve.

An old adage from the Honorable days of the old "Texas Repuplic" I believe sums it up correctly during days of the "Old West" during Poker Game disputes.

"Smith and Wesson always Beats 4 Aces" !! .

Cheers
jimbo
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24 Jun 2012   #4

Win7 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi there
There was another one in Holland where Apple and Samsung are fighting it out (again)

Why for once can't the LAWYERS go on strike. !! Everybody else seems to be doing it these days.
Some of this legal horse sh__e should just be replied to with a ONE LINE respone as follows. --

"Don't Care --Had enough-- Not Paying -----what are you going to do about it....end of"

what are they going to do -- send Bailiff's to S. Korea or China to seize the factories. !!! I'm sure they'd be treated with the total utter comtempt that they no doubt duely and justly deserve.

An old adage from the Honorable days of the old "Texas Repuplic" I believe sums it up correctly during days of the "Old West" during Poker Game disputes.

"Smith and Wesson always Beats 4 Aces" !! .

Cheers
jimbo

Lawyers go on strike!!!

Then they won't get paid....

Hmmm,,,, will never happen.
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24 Jun 2012   #5

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. (On both machines)
 
 

Holding on to patents, in order to sue some company which may develop goods or services that are invisibly related to said patent, is *patently evil and should be made illegal. Bravo judge, but you will probably be disbarred in the States for being in possession of Common Sense.

* SORRY! Couldn't resist it!
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24 Jun 2012   #6

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. (On both machines)
 
 

Jimbo

Lawyers go on strike!!!

Then they won't get paid....

Hmmm,,,, will never happen.

They cannot strike. That would be a human thing to do. Every one of them is totally inhuman. Check out Tony Blair and his missus Cherie.
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24 Jun 2012   #7

Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bertison View Post
Holding on to patents, in order to sue some company which may develop goods or services that are invisibly related to said patent, is *patently evil and should be made illegal.
Apparently you have never spent a large fraction of your life creating valuable intellectual property and protecting it consistently with copyright and published patents. Well, I have. I object to the notion that I must give away my life to someone else simply because he wants and needs to use it without getting my permission and paying me for that privilege.

I am not his slave nor is he mine. He can ask polite permission and pay a fair (mutually agreed) price and I won't object. If he tries to steal it, I have the moral and legal right to prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law. It doesn't make an iota of difference if YOU can't see the violation. The violation still exists and my PRIOR right to the intellectual property has been legally established.

If you want to be a perpetual slave to the collective, it is your choice. I will not be so cooperative.
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24 Jun 2012   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Patenting technologies or designs is one thing. Patenting concepts to try to prevent any competition in the marketspace is a totally different thing.

These aren't patents that people work long and hard on protecting, they are things like "When an message arrives, a notification will be made to the user to let them know they have a message waiting". Or better yet, "an electronic device, that is portable, which can be used with a human intervention interface to allow the human to interact with the device and input data and hit a button to otherwise cause an action to be taken by the device to accomplish the desired result" < These are the type of horseshit patents which we are tying up the legal system trying to enforce.
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24 Jun 2012   #9

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Patenting technologies or designs is one thing. Patenting concepts to try to prevent any competition in the marketspace is a totally different thing.
The interesting thing is that ALL technologies and designs are concepts at their root. A copyright is a time limited right to EXCLUDE others from using your exact implementation as is or in a derivative work without permission. A patent is a time limited right to EXCLUDE others from using the patented concept without permission. Both rights include the right to demand payment for permission to use the concepts and implementations involved and to exclude the competition from using it without prior agreement.

All human artifacts are, at their starting point of their, life intellectual property and exist as concepts that were a product of the inventor's life. Hence your stated desire is to use a part of the inventor's life is a desire to have a slave and to use his life without permission or payment. THAT is evil to its core! Perhaps you don't "intend" to have a slave but your evasion of the underlying facts does not excuse you from participating in an evil.
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24 Jun 2012   #10

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. (On both machines)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lkgriffith View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bertison View Post
Holding on to patents, in order to sue some company which may develop goods or services that are invisibly related to said patent, is *patently evil and should be made illegal.
Apparently you have never spent a large fraction of your life creating valuable intellectual property and protecting it consistently with copyright and published patents. Well, I have. I object to the notion that I must give away my life to someone else simply because he wants and needs to use it without getting my permission and paying me for that privilege.

I am not his slave nor is he mine. He can ask polite permission and pay a fair (mutually agreed) price and I won't object. If he tries to steal it, I have the moral and legal right to prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law. It doesn't make an iota of difference if YOU can't see the violation. The violation still exists and my PRIOR right to the intellectual property has been legally established.

If you want to be a perpetual slave to the collective, it is your choice. I will not be so cooperative.
Sorry, but you completely missed the point I was trying to make. Please read PParks' excellent post and you may understand.

Massive companies such as Apple, Microsoft et al are guilty of making up "pretend" Patents, some of which are presented and written in the vaguest of terms. They then employ teams of Patent Lawyers, whose sole function is to trawl through every single new development that may have even the slightest and most tenuous connection to the patent they have specially prepared. It is entrapment and fraud, IMHO. What, I ask you, would be your response, if your own application for a patent led to you being placed in the position of having to defend yourself against a huge, wealthy company which decided that they alone owned the intellectual property to your ideas and work?

I have obviously struck a sensitive nerve with you. The fact remains that Apple took on a company that was prepared to go to the wire with them. Samsung have deep pockets too and have shown that they will not be bullied.

There is also the issue of Apple's use of virtual slave labour in some of their factories and suppliers. They are not alone in this of course, but they do make the loudest denials.
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