| Windows 7: Microsoft analyzes over a million PC failures... |
30 Jun 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Bay Area Peninsula |
Microsoft analyzes over a million PC failures... Microsoft analyzes over a million PC failures, results shatter enthusiast myths Quote: What they found is fascinating. The full study is well worth a read; we’re going to focus on the high points and central findings. There are two limitations to the data collected that we need to acknowledge. First, the data set we’re about to discuss is limited to hardware failures that actually led to a system crash. Failures that don’t lead to crashes are not cataloged. Second, the data presented here is limited to hardware crashes, with no information on the relative frequency of software to hardware crashes. Source
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30 Jun 2012
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But the analysis can only be as good as the crash data received. Nevertheless interesting. Quote: We present the first large-scale analysis of hardware failure rates on consumer PCs by studying failures in the CPU, DRAM, and disk subsystems. Yeah well that may be intersting read for harware manufacturers
Selection, bias, 3.2.1, yeah, what I feared.
My machines are not there. Quote: Figure 6 shows that white box machines have less reliable CPUs and dramatically less reliable DRAMs than brand name machines, although disks are just as reliable. Goes to show when homebuilders go for the cheap way out. I currently have 5 homebuilt desktops (two are modified HP U desktops) and I do not think they have any of the described issues. But then again, the stats are a bit overwhelming to the contrary.
How does this study help improving Windows? Ah, section 8. Interesting. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Main WKS/Gaming Sloth OS W7x64P CPU Phenom II X4 925, 2800 Mhz Motherboard GigaByte GA-MA790-FXT-UD5P Memory 16 GB PC3-10700 Graphics Card 2 x ATI 6750 Sound Card Asus Xonar DX Monitor(s) Displays 2 x LG Flatron L2000C (3:4) Screen Resolution 2 x 1600x1200 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech G700 PSU 750 W Case Cooler Master CM 690 Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 612S Hard Drives WDC WD740ADFD (10k rpm)|
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30 Jun 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64 Wanderer |
OEM has a locked down BIOS, no OC'ing.
Custom built rigs have unlocked BIOS, so we play with the settings, it's unavoidable.
To OC a system you advance the settings until it crashes, then adjust again or back them off.
So a custom built system will have more crashes but, will run better 
This usually requires more voltage which produces more heat which degrades electronic devices, we all know that and OC anyway.
If you OC with EIST (speed step) enabled your system will run at lower voltage and lower heat most of the time, making it last longer 
So it's all good, and we get to have fun. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number 76~2.0 OS Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64 CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 4.6GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X UD3H, f18 Memory 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 1600 Corsair Vengeance CL8 1.5v Graphics Card Sapphire HD 7770 Vapor-X OC 1GB DDR5 Sound Card Onboard VIA VT2021 Monitor(s) Displays 22" LCD Dell Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse CM Sentinel PSU Corsair HX650W Case Cooler Master Storm Scout Cooling Corsair H80 2x12cm Noctua NF P12 , 2x14cm case fans Hard Drives Samsung 840Pro 128GB SSD,
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External USB WD 500GB |
30 Jun 2012
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#4 | | |
lol... Quote: To OC a system you advance the settings until it crashes, then adjust again or back them off.
So a custom built system will have more crashes but, will run better not me. Since i played around with KT133 a few years ago I never done any OC. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Main WKS/Gaming Sloth OS W7x64P CPU Phenom II X4 925, 2800 Mhz Motherboard GigaByte GA-MA790-FXT-UD5P Memory 16 GB PC3-10700 Graphics Card 2 x ATI 6750 Sound Card Asus Xonar DX Monitor(s) Displays 2 x LG Flatron L2000C (3:4) Screen Resolution 2 x 1600x1200 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech G700 PSU 750 W Case Cooler Master CM 690 Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 612S Hard Drives WDC WD740ADFD (10k rpm)|
WDC WD5000AAKS |
WDC WD10EARS Internet Speed ADSL 30 MBit Other Info ESET Endpoint Protection protects all my computers. |
30 Jun 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 |
Since MS primarily deals with software, it's hard to fathom all the different combination of hardware components that create a near endless amount of variables to track down a definitive cause of these failures.
PC enthusiasts are generally those who pick their hardware very selectively (unless their budget can only afford an ultra-cheap setup) and for OC'ing, they tend to employ decent controls (better HSF, pastes, etc.) to manage the additional stress/heat. Since you don't have to be an IRQ/device conflict genius now unlike the Win95/98 days, putting a system together has gotten much easier. The casual user that goes to Costco or what not to buy the cheapest computer made by <insert random OEM here> may not know what quality of components reside in their purchase (I still have nightmares of people buying Compaq or e-Machine computers).
Skewing off the topic just a tad:
Even Apple users still have a very hard time accepting that iOS apps crash/fail significantly more often than Android apps. Unlike Microsoft who deals out only the OS, the hardware found in each iOS device is strictly controlled by Apple. Study: iOS apps crash more than Android apps do | TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony / IBM / Apple MB Pro 2011 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 CPU i7 QM720 - AMD MV40 - i5 2.3Ghz SB Memory 8GB - 4GB - 8GB Graphics Card Nvidia 310M - ATI 3200M - Intel HD3000 Sound Card Various Monitor(s) Displays Sony 17 inch LCD - 12 inch - 13 inch Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 240Gb
Crucial RealSSD C330 256GB
OWC Mercury Extreme Pro 6G 240GB |
30 Jun 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
To me that research is useless. Not over a long enough span of time. Not knowing the products, equipment, and or programs also makes it useless. Hell, lack of a Java update can cause all kinds of problems. If you overclock and don't get a shut down your not trying hard enough. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
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30 Jun 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 |
Agreed. Personally I used to OC my Slot-1 machines back when the Celeron 300A could easily hit 450Mhz (and was significantly faster than the Slot-1 PII 450Mhz due to the Celeron's full speed L2 cache) with just a minor bus speed change in the bios or jumper (Abit BH6).
For today I see no need to OC seriously anymore, machines are often fast enough and the only motivation I'd have to even consider OC'ing is if I'm interested in being the next benchmark king. All the extra mods I'd implement just to keep things under control could easily be reinvested in simply purchasing a faster machine or key system component (graphics card for gaming, CPU, RAM, etc.) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony / IBM / Apple MB Pro 2011 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 CPU i7 QM720 - AMD MV40 - i5 2.3Ghz SB Memory 8GB - 4GB - 8GB Graphics Card Nvidia 310M - ATI 3200M - Intel HD3000 Sound Card Various Monitor(s) Displays Sony 17 inch LCD - 12 inch - 13 inch Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 240Gb
Crucial RealSSD C330 256GB
OWC Mercury Extreme Pro 6G 240GB |
01 Jul 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) Adelaide |
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RAM & Graphics Card Upgraded - 2013-01-13
Monitor Upgraded - 2012-04-20
System Upgraded - 2011-05-21, 2010-07-14
HDD Upgraded - 2010-08-11, 2011-08-24 |
05 Jul 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 x64 Professional SP1 Geordieland, Tyne and Wear |
Interesting results, but the methodology could be improved. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DELL SXPS 1640 OS Windows 7 x64 Professional SP1 CPU Intel C2D T9550 2.66 GHz @ 2.793 GHz (Thanks ThrottleStop!!) Motherboard Intel PM45 Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card ATI MOBILITY RADEON 4670 Sound Card CREATIVE XFI AUDIO NOTEBOOK Monitor(s) Displays 16.1 WLED Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Built-in backlighted Keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless Mini Mouse PSU 90W Dell Power Brick Case Dell Chassis Cooling Coolermaster Cooling Pad Hard Drives Seagate ST9500420AS 500GB (465GiBi) 7200 RPM Drive
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