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    Resale of Used Software Licenses Legal in EU


    Posted: 10 Jul 2012
    Europe's highest court ruled on Tuesday that the trading of "used" software licenses is legal and that the author of such software cannot oppose any resale.
    Source: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...en_online.html
    windude99's Avatar Posted By: windude99
    10 Jul 2012



  1. Posts : 5,941
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       #1

    Hi there
    This of course doesn't in any case invalidate the "Activation" of Windows on more than one computer of course -- although it would be interesting to see how Ms deals with this issue.

    You could legally say to Ms that the software has been removed from computer X (which is what the Court ruling requires you to do) and install on computer Y. (Phone activation required and only a RETAIL copy).

    This rather hideously opens the way for Piracy -- expect to see a lot more Windows versions with "dubious pedigree" for sale soon --even more dubious versions of expensive software like Adobe Photoshop will also appear soon too -- as in all these things "Caveat Emptor" applies.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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       #2

    Eh, I'm more worried about scumbag DRM implementations - mostly because I'm a gamer.

    1. Buy game
    2. Play it until finished/bored/etc
    3. Sell to friend
    4. DRM prevents friend from installing
    5. ????
    6. PROFIT FAIL

    This is why I hate those digital distribution methods that don't really give you the "whole" product. I have games I bought in the mid-1990s that still work (!!) because their publishers used a straightforward CP (cd key) implementation that does not depend on them being around to Big Brother everything. Hell, many of those companies even don't exist anymore.

    Back on topic, even with this ruling, they can comply by "allowing" you to resell it, but it doesn't force them to let the subsequent purchaser to actually make use of it. It's like buying a secondhand car, and then having to go to GM because your car engine won't start without their say so despite the transaction having nothing to do with them.
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    Trucidation said:
    This is why I hate those digital distribution methods that don't really give you the "whole" product. I have games I bought in the mid-1990s that still work (!!) because their publishers used a straightforward CP (cd key) implementation that does not depend on them being around to Big Brother everything.
    I can't stand products that force you to be connected to the internet while it is in use (internet connection required to play). I shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to prove I'm a legit customer. I tend not to buy those products.

    Understandably, I went way off topic.

    I'm not sure if I favor this ruling or not. I would be interested to know all potential consequences of such a ruling.
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       #4

    The "Cloud"


    DustSailor said:
    I can't stand products that force you to be connected to the internet while it is in use (internet connection required to play). I shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to prove I'm a legit customer. I tend not to buy those products.
    If more people refused to buy such products, the practice would cease (i.e. the companies would stop doing it and/or they'd go out of business).

    The next move will be moving all games (and other software) to the "Cloud".
    You get nothing and you pay a subscription to access the game (and other software).
    This is why software makers are pushing the "Cloud" so hard.

    This is why I say everyone should boycott the "Cloud".
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       #5

    Don't even get me started on subscription fees...
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    Europe is really showing the world how it should be done in matters relating to technology.

    Previously, their courts took Intel and Microsoft to task for their anti comptetive and criminal corporate behaviour.

    Then, their parliment rejects ACTA, and now this? Kudos to them for this ruling, I say!

    Shame on you America for ACTA and all those other pro-corporation BS rulings!

    Trucidation said:

    This is why I hate those digital distribution methods that don't really give you the "whole" product. I have games I bought in the mid-1990s that still work (!!) because their publishers used a straightforward CP (cd key) implementation that does not depend on them being around to Big Brother everything. Hell, many of those companies even don't exist anymore.
    GOG.com

    Any further questions? :)
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       #7

    Yes, I love GOG.com and their ilk.

    lehnerus2000 said:
    If more people refused to buy such products, the practice would cease (i.e. the companies would stop doing it and/or they'd go out of business).
    It's already too late... there's already a wide audience for this crap. We might feel attached to our purchases, but there are tons more people who play $0.99 "Angry Bird" caliber games and think nothing of buying into a vendor-locked anti-consumer product.

    You can fleece these suckers of their money every single time and all they do is whine for a couple of seconds until they get distracted by the next Big Content trailer featuring a girl with her tits hanging out and explosions in the background.

    I won't be surprised if the next generation consoles turn out to be bricks that only do anything when the server at the other end of the connection feels pleased with the money you fed it. I mean, you probably read the recent articles about Sony contemplating "100% digital distribution"? That's right, a cloud console: no discs, nothing on your end, ever. Bet this concept has Sony jizzing its collective pants, they finally get to control everything, all you can do is sell them your soul via monthly subscription. Games, movies, music, you buy everything from them.

    And you'll like it.

    Because Sony says so.

    Resale of Used Software Licenses Legal in EU-i_dont_want_to_live_on_this_planet_anymore.jpg
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       #8

    Trucidation said:
    Yes, I love GOG.com and their ilk.

    lehnerus2000 said:
    If more people refused to buy such products, the practice would cease (i.e. the companies would stop doing it and/or they'd go out of business).
    It's already too late... there's already a wide audience for this crap. We might feel attached to our purchases, but there are tons more people who play $0.99 "Angry Bird" caliber games and think nothing of buying into a vendor-locked anti-consumer product.

    You can fleece these suckers of their money every single time and all they do is whine for a couple of seconds until they get distracted by the next Big Content trailer featuring a girl with her tits hanging out and explosions in the background.

    I won't be surprised if the next generation consoles turn out to be bricks that only do anything when the server at the other end of the connection feels pleased with the money you fed it. I mean, you probably read the recent articles about Sony contemplating "100% digital distribution"? That's right, a cloud console: no discs, nothing on your end, ever. Bet this concept has Sony jizzing its collective pants, they finally get to control everything, all you can do is sell them your soul via monthly subscription. Games, movies, music, you buy everything from them.

    And you'll like it.

    Because Sony says so.

    Resale of Used Software Licenses Legal in EU-i_dont_want_to_live_on_this_planet_anymore.jpg

    Sounds like Apple too

    No wonder M$ wants part of the action.
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    The internet/cloud has no place in single player games, 'nuff said.
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