| Windows 7: Resale of Used Software Licenses Legal in EU |
10 Jul 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1 USA |
Resale of Used Software Licenses Legal in EU Quote: Europe's highest court ruled on Tuesday that the trading of "used" software licenses is legal and that the author of such software cannot oppose any resale. Source: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...en_online.html | My System Specs |
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10 Jul 2012
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#2 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |
Hi there
This of course doesn't in any case invalidate the "Activation" of Windows on more than one computer of course -- although it would be interesting to see how Ms deals with this issue.
You could legally say to Ms that the software has been removed from computer X (which is what the Court ruling requires you to do) and install on computer Y. (Phone activation required and only a RETAIL copy).
This rather hideously opens the way for Piracy -- expect to see a lot more Windows versions with "dubious pedigree" for sale soon --even more dubious versions of expensive software like Adobe Photoshop will also appear soon too -- as in all these things "Caveat Emptor" applies.
Cheers
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10 Jul 2012
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#3 | | Win7 Pro x64 Stage 5.0 (26 Dimensional Jump) |
Eh, I'm more worried about scumbag DRM implementations - mostly because I'm a gamer.
1. Buy game
2. Play it until finished/bored/etc
3. Sell to friend
4. DRM prevents friend from installing
5. ????
6. PROFIT FAIL
This is why I hate those digital distribution methods that don't really give you the "whole" product. I have games I bought in the mid-1990s that still work (!!) because their publishers used a straightforward CP (cd key) implementation that does not depend on them being around to Big Brother everything. Hell, many of those companies even don't exist anymore.
Back on topic, even with this ruling, they can comply by "allowing" you to resell it, but it doesn't force them to let the subsequent purchaser to actually make use of it. It's like buying a secondhand car, and then having to go to GM because your car engine won't start without their say so despite the transaction having nothing to do with them. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-built rig OS Win7 Pro x64 CPU Koa i5-2550K Memory 8 GB Graphics Card Sapphire ATI 6870 1GB GDDR5 Sound Card RealTek HD Audio / ATI HDMI Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung HDTV Monitor T23A350 Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Hard Drives - SSD (C:)
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10 Jul 2012
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#4 | | Windows 8 Pro with Media Center x64 Southern California, USA |

Quote: Originally Posted by Trucidation This is why I hate those digital distribution methods that don't really give you the "whole" product. I have games I bought in the mid-1990s that still work (!!) because their publishers used a straightforward CP (cd key) implementation that does not depend on them being around to Big Brother everything. I can't stand products that force you to be connected to the internet while it is in use (internet connection required to play). I shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to prove I'm a legit customer. I tend not to buy those products.
Understandably, I went way off topic.
I'm not sure if I favor this ruling or not. I would be interested to know all potential consequences of such a ruling. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron M5040 OS Windows 8 Pro with Media Center x64 CPU AMD E-450 APU 1.65 GHz Memory 4GB Graphics Card Built-in Radeon HD 6320 Graphics Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 3500 Cooling fan Hard Drives 500GB Internet Speed 2.86Mbps Download Speed, 2.85Mbps Upload Speed & 26ms Ping Antivirus Defender Browser IE10 |
10 Jul 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) Adelaide |
The "Cloud" 
Quote: Originally Posted by DustSailor I can't stand products that force you to be connected to the internet while it is in use (internet connection required to play). I shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to prove I'm a legit customer. I tend not to buy those products. If more people refused to buy such products, the practice would cease (i.e. the companies would stop doing it and/or they'd go out of business).
The next move will be moving all games (and other software) to the "Cloud".
You get nothing and you pay a subscription to access the game (and other software).
This is why software makers are pushing the "Cloud" so hard.
This is why I say everyone should boycott the "Cloud". | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number n/a OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1055T, 2.8 GHz Motherboard ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3 Memory 8GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill Ares F3-1333C9D-8GAO (4GB x 2) Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD6450 Sound Card Realtek? Monitor(s) Displays Samsung S23B350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Mouse Wired Optical Case Tower Hard Drives Western Digital 1 TB (SATA), Western Digital 1.5 TB (SATA), Western Digital 2 TB (SATA) Internet Speed DSL Other Info Ubuntu 10.04 (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) - 2013-01-14
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10 Jul 2012
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#6 | | Windows 8 Pro with Media Center x64 Southern California, USA |
Don't even get me started on subscription fees... | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron M5040 OS Windows 8 Pro with Media Center x64 CPU AMD E-450 APU 1.65 GHz Memory 4GB Graphics Card Built-in Radeon HD 6320 Graphics Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 3500 Cooling fan Hard Drives 500GB Internet Speed 2.86Mbps Download Speed, 2.85Mbps Upload Speed & 26ms Ping Antivirus Defender Browser IE10 |
11 Jul 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 x64 Professional SP1 Geordieland, Tyne and Wear |
Europe is really showing the world how it should be done in matters relating to technology.
Previously, their courts took Intel and Microsoft to task for their anti comptetive and criminal corporate behaviour.
Then, their parliment rejects ACTA, and now this? Kudos to them for this ruling, I say!
Shame on you America for ACTA and all those other pro-corporation BS rulings! 
Quote: Originally Posted by Trucidation
This is why I hate those digital distribution methods that don't really give you the "whole" product. I have games I bought in the mid-1990s that still work (!!) because their publishers used a straightforward CP (cd key) implementation that does not depend on them being around to Big Brother everything. Hell, many of those companies even don't exist anymore. GOG.com
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12 Jul 2012
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#8 | | Win7 Pro x64 Stage 5.0 (26 Dimensional Jump) |
Yes, I love GOG.com and their ilk. 
Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 If more people refused to buy such products, the practice would cease (i.e. the companies would stop doing it and/or they'd go out of business). It's already too late... there's already a wide audience for this crap. We might feel attached to our purchases, but there are tons more people who play $0.99 "Angry Bird" caliber games and think nothing of buying into a vendor-locked anti-consumer product.
You can fleece these suckers of their money every single time and all they do is whine for a couple of seconds until they get distracted by the next Big Content trailer featuring a girl with her tits hanging out and explosions in the background.
I won't be surprised if the next generation consoles turn out to be bricks that only do anything when the server at the other end of the connection feels pleased with the money you fed it. I mean, you probably read the recent articles about Sony contemplating "100% digital distribution"? That's right, a cloud console: no discs, nothing on your end, ever. Bet this concept has Sony jizzing its collective pants, they finally get to control everything, all you can do is sell them your soul via monthly subscription. Games, movies, music, you buy everything from them.
And you'll like it.
Because Sony says so. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-built rig OS Win7 Pro x64 CPU Koa i5-2550K Memory 8 GB Graphics Card Sapphire ATI 6870 1GB GDDR5 Sound Card RealTek HD Audio / ATI HDMI Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung HDTV Monitor T23A350 Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Hard Drives - SSD (C:)
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14 Jul 2012
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#9 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Trucidation Yes, I love GOG.com and their ilk. 
Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 If more people refused to buy such products, the practice would cease (i.e. the companies would stop doing it and/or they'd go out of business). It's already too late... there's already a wide audience for this crap. We might feel attached to our purchases, but there are tons more people who play $0.99 "Angry Bird" caliber games and think nothing of buying into a vendor-locked anti-consumer product.
You can fleece these suckers of their money every single time and all they do is whine for a couple of seconds until they get distracted by the next Big Content trailer featuring a girl with her tits hanging out and explosions in the background.
I won't be surprised if the next generation consoles turn out to be bricks that only do anything when the server at the other end of the connection feels pleased with the money you fed it. I mean, you probably read the recent articles about Sony contemplating "100% digital distribution"? That's right, a cloud console: no discs, nothing on your end, ever. Bet this concept has Sony jizzing its collective pants, they finally get to control everything, all you can do is sell them your soul via monthly subscription. Games, movies, music, you buy everything from them.
And you'll like it.
Because Sony says so. Attachment 221123
Sounds like Apple too
No wonder M$ wants part of the action. | My System Specs | | |
14 Jul 2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Los Angeles, CA, USA |
The internet/cloud has no place in single player games, 'nuff said. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number N/A (custom-built) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 2700K @ 3.5GHz (TurboBoost disabled) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4x4GB) Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz @ 1333MHz Graphics Card Nvidia EVGA GeForce 560 Ti 448 Cores Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio (motherboard integrated) Monitor(s) Displays NEC Multisync EX231W Screen Resolution 1920x1080 @ 60Hz via DVI-D Keyboard Steelseries 6Gv2 Mouse Steelseries Sensei RAW Glossy, Logitech M500 PSU Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850 Case Antec 300 Cooling Air-cooling Hard Drives 2x Western Digital 1TB SATA3 Caviar Black Internal HDD // 1x WD 500GB USB 3.0 "My Passport Essential" External HDD // 1x WD 1TB USB 3.0 "My Passport Essential" External HDD // 2x WD 2TB USB 3.0 "My Passport Essential" External HDD Internet Speed DSL Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Mozilla Firefox, Opera, Chromium, IE9 Resale of Used Software Licenses Legal in EU problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:27 PM. | |