Is 'Metro' now a banned word at Microsoft?

IMHO it's all about 2 things - 1, change - a majority of humans are opposed to anything new, they are used to dealing and working with something that works for them and their situation. A smaller proportion of people who accept and welcome change and new methods, will work to overcome any problems. Then eventually many will happily accept the results of these endeavours, whilst others will continue to oppose the new. It's called an entrenched position and I may have been guilty of that error myself.

2 - Most computer users are unskilled in computing, who only need to turn on and use the machine. They are not interested in having to solve problems with drivers, or setting up a new operating system. They just want it work "out of the box". Vista did not do that, it was a departure from the XP they had grown used to. 7 worked much better in that regard, I know users like that who hated Vista and loved 7. To quote one of them, it's like Microsoft used Vista to show us how good 7 was in comparison. Same person loves the way that 7 sets up her peripherals, asking if she wants drivers and setting them up.

Bertison said:

IMHO it's all about 2 things - 1, change - a majority of humans are opposed to anything new, they are used to dealing and working with something that works for them and their situation. A smaller proportion of people who accept and welcome change and new methods, will work to overcome any problems. Then eventually many will happily accept the results of these endeavours, whilst others will continue to oppose the new. It's called an entrenched position and I may have been guilty of that error myself.

I would certainly agree with that. As a matter-of-fact, that's part of my problem with Windows or anything else. If you don't believe me, ask my wife--She'll tell you the same thing.:)

jimbo45 said:

Hi there
I think we all agree that W8 will never see the light of day inside corporations where people use computers for real work

That's the whole truth being said...

jimbo45 said:

-- however I can't see what's wrong with a bit of tinkering on a HOME system particularly if you install it as a Virtual Machine.

Well...

Bertison said:

...2 - Most computer users are unskilled in computing...

This answers this one in particular, this people will be SCREAMING nd begging for Windows 7 to be reinstalled on their systems as soon as possible... We can't spect everyone to know how to use and setup a virtual machine... and some people (like me) also need to work at home.

jimbo45 said:

As far as installing 3rd party products to make an OS useable --that's done ALL the TIME with Linux -- such things as APACHE,SAMBA, MySQL and PHP come immediately to mind in order to make a really good reliable Linux file and web server. Nobody says you shouldn't install these products (all FREE of course) to greatly increase the use of the OS (another issue but beats IIS by about 40,000 KM too !!).

That's right, but Linux has an open source kernel, which means that people can release enhacement tools without guessing, because they already know how to handle kernel and deep system changes, with Windows is almost a trial and error, even if in the most part of the time those changes are harmeless...

Also, Linux is known to be customizable since the beggining and that, if you want something, you change it by yourself. Windows is designed to run in PC's for people that knows nothing about this, that's the reality.

jimbo45 said:

I do agree though Ms should have thought through this whole desktop experience completely before going ahead with it.

I'd get some of the developers and LOCK them in a room with only a large 50 inch monitor and not let them out until they've completed a few complex spread sheet, some power point presentations and a few document translations ONLY BEING ALLOWED TO USE FULL SCREEN, TOUCH AND METRO apps.

They'd be screaming for the traditional desktop within 60 secs.

I can't understand why stuff isn't trialled somewhat similarly before some stupid "suited and booted" manager gives the OK to let the product out of the door.

Cheers
jimbo

And this sir. Is the whole truth, it seems they never hear feedback even from people that tested the RP, instead rushing releases with no testing...

See ya!!

I have Win 8 installed on VMware Player. Every time I open it I say to myself, “Why in the h### am I doing this?” Actually, I don’t know. So here’s one question that I would like an answer to: Unless a person is using one of those hand held instruments, what is the advantage of Windows 8 over windows 7?

gregrocker said:

Are they contemplating mass replacement with touch screen desktops?

To get my fingerprints covering a nice monitor panel?

NO