| Windows 7: Why You Should Go 64-Bit With Win7 |
21 Jan 2009
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#11 | | Windows 7 Beta, Windows Vista Ultimate, Vista Home Prem, eee Ubuntu |
Socket 939 Athlon chips are 64bit single core processors, so it will work in 64 bit mode. Any Athlon 64 processors are 64bit. Even the Socket 754.
Andy | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 Beta, Windows Vista Ultimate, Vista Home Prem, eee Ubuntu |
21 Jan 2009
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#12 | | |
Thank you...
I will propably change to 64bit when the next version comes. | My System Specs | | |
21 Jan 2009
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#13 | | Windows7 beta 7000 Oaxaca, Mexico |
I read the article and some of the comments and downloaded the 64bit version of Windows 7. I got up and found it waiting on my computer and installed it. Things went well at first. One of my favorite programs, a dictionary, wouldn't install. Then I downloaded and installed AVG Free and drivers for my mouse and keyboard. Then, hell arrived.
It took twenty minutes for Windows7 to boot and start up and it wouldn't function. I tried to reinstall from the CD and my computer would not boot from the CD drive no matter how I set the BIOS. I finally unplugged my hard drives, started a boot, with 32bit Windows7, and plugged in one drive. Of course, I plugged the wrong one in and that caused new problems but that was strictly my fault and my frustration.
I'll wait awhile before I try 64bit again. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows7 beta 7000 CPU Intel E6550 Motherboard Intel DP35DP Memory 8Gb Graphics Card Nvidia 8500 GT Sound Card Intel onboard sound Monitor(s) Displays Two Gateway 22" LCD monitors Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Hard Drives Two 500Gb 7200rpm SATA |
21 Jan 2009
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#14 | | XP/Vista/Windows 7 builld 7000 Nova Scotia Canada |
I'm afraid i am the dissenting opinion again. we are going 64 bit os down the road, that goes without saying. That change though will be driven by software titles on the market that are released exclusively for 64 bit platforms. There is nothing in the article i find compelling for home users to say, for the present, I have to go 64 bit. Game titles certainly don't have the weight to drive development the way they once did. The numbers are way up for games, but not on the pc, the vast bulk of the industry numbers are console related. You are going to have to show me something else in a title I want to or need to run.
Now that market does currently exist for special applications. I have built and support units for professional classical musicians whom like to tinker. Ditto for in field personnel or students of architecture, or engineering whom work from home after hours a lot. Cad? You bet. But the average home user at the present time, I just don't see the advantage.
From my business point of view, competative in the market means bringing a unit in within a very small margin of other industry quotes. For that, we give them the best bang for the buck within the end user's budget. An additional 4 gb of ram the people on this forum and others may go for costwise, I would myself, but the vast bulk of client order the minimum ability to run ram whatever our advice and they won't ante up, because that will add significantly to the overall unit cost. Microsofts big sell. their next big thing at the last developers conference I attended for the near future is zero touch deployment, and cloud computing. To me, I see microsoft trying to have it both ways because typical workstations are going smaller ram, not in gb increments from what they have now.
I'm sold on the 64 bit os, as soon as I have a need for it, but it's way too early for everyone to jump on the bandwagon. I cant wait till we see the numbers from Dell, HP and Toshiba once windows 7 has gone retail for six or nine months. The bulk of users out there don't visit forums, are not capable of teching their own pc issues, and I don't believe will willingly pay for the additional hardware cost.
Last edited by ittech; 21 Jan 2009 at 11:20 AM..
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| My System Specs | | OS XP/Vista/Windows 7 builld 7000 |
23 Jan 2009
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#15 | | Vista Ult 64bit - Windows 7 Ult 7264 64bit Frozen North |
You bring up some very good points ittech.
I also am sold on 64bit but I actually have few s'ware titles (if any) that are truly written to take advantage of 64bit. I mainly went to 64bit with Vista because my new build had 4G's RAM and I didn't want to waste even the 600+MB's that 32bit can't address.
BTW, my last trip to Halifax was 3 days after "Juan" left...what a mess. What area you in? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Personal Build OS Vista Ult 64bit - Windows 7 Ult 7264 64bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Motherboard Asus Commando Memory 4 G's Crucial Ballistix Tracer Graphics Card BFG Nvidia 8800 GTS 340 Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Platinum FATAL1TY Monitor(s) Displays 2-22" HP W2207 LCD Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech MX 5500 Mouse Logitech MX Revolution PSU Enermax Noise Taker II 600W Case NZXT Lexa Classic (dual doored & windowed) Cooling Zalman 9700 CPU cooler - 4 x 120mm, 1 x 90mm fans Hard Drives 3 x 500G WD Caviar SATA II Internet Speed Blazing... |
23 Jan 2009
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Yea
I've always used 64
I dont understand why not 64. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz Motherboard MSI Intel Memory 6142MB RAM Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 896MB Superclocked Edition Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi XtremeGamer Monitor(s) Displays NEC MultiSync 90GX2 Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard Logitech MX5500 HID-Compliant Keyboard Mouse Logitech MX5500 HID-Compliant Mouse Case Something Cooling Nothing Hard Drives 660 GB Total Internet Speed 800KB Download 80KB Upload Other Info I have a Mouse Pad! |
23 Jan 2009
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#17 | | Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM) In a ∞ Portal |

Quote: Originally Posted by Cobra Yea
I've always used 64
I dont understand why not 64.
one thing "sanboxing"....
i loved sanboxing my apps (used sanboxie) but now (with patchguard) this author stop developing it for x64 alltogether...
i know i know you can use steady state and pc safeguard but i want on a app basis not on machine basis....
i mean i know that ms is doing something good by stoping kernel patching but i want something that can either apply the same ideal in sanboxing as sanboxie or something better...
and i know ms is onto it as i there have been hints on this (think virtualization and companies that have been bought by MS)... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Tx2500z Tablet Pc/Homemade Server OS Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM) CPU Turion X2 ultra (oh well came with laptop)/P4 @3.2 (yes P4) Motherboard IDK HP Motherboard / Intel DG965SS Memory OCZ Dual Channel 4GB kit/ 1gb Dual Channel Graphics Card HD 3200 graphics /GMA x3100 (yay for intergrated!!) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio(mic working, well sort of)/Siig IC-70012 Monitor(s) Displays built-in Hp 12" laptop screen/ Acer 19" Screen Resolution 1280x800 /1440x900 Mouse Logi MX Rev. /MS Wheel Optical 1.1A /Logitech Optical Mouse Cooling All Air Cooled Internet Speed College baby but its still routed through vpn to 1536k... Other Info love my wacom pen and pressure sensitivity...
wished it worked in 7, SUSE for that matter though |
23 Jan 2009
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#18 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by ittech I'm afraid i am the dissenting opinion again. we are going 64 bit os down the road, that goes without saying. That change though will be driven by software titles on the market that are released exclusively for 64 bit platforms. There is nothing in the article i find compelling for home users to say, for the present, I have to go 64 bit. Game titles certainly don't have the weight to drive development the way they once did. The numbers are way up for games, but not on the pc, the vast bulk of the industry numbers are console related. You are going to have to show me something else in a title I want to or need to run.
Now that market does currently exist for special applications. I have built and support units for professional classical musicians whom like to tinker. Ditto for in field personnel or students of architecture, or engineering whom work from home after hours a lot. Cad? You bet. But the average home user at the present time, I just don't see the advantage.
From my business point of view, competative in the market means bringing a unit in within a very small margin of other industry quotes. For that, we give them the best bang for the buck within the end user's budget. An additional 4 gb of ram the people on this forum and others may go for costwise, I would myself, but the vast bulk of client order the minimum ability to run ram whatever our advice and they won't ante up, because that will add significantly to the overall unit cost. Microsofts big sell. their next big thing at the last developers conference I attended for the near future is zero touch deployment, and cloud computing. To me, I see microsoft trying to have it both ways because typical workstations are going smaller ram, not in gb increments from what they have now.
I'm sold on the 64 bit os, as soon as I have a need for it, but it's way too early for everyone to jump on the bandwagon. I cant wait till we see the numbers from Dell, HP and Toshiba once windows 7 has gone retail for six or nine months. The bulk of users out there don't visit forums, are not capable of teching their own pc issues, and I don't believe will willingly pay for the additional hardware cost. While I do agree with most of your points, the thing is, why not?
If the person were to read the article in question, they likely have enough PC experience to sort out minor problems on their own through a quick google search. As the article states, the people who should go 64 bit are the people geeky enough to be reading that article.
Most 32 bit apps run at least a little bit quicker, and overall graphics do too. I think most users won't find issues running apps and drivers. The only issue I find is that my palm centro can't sync through USB with my PC. But some sacrifices have to be made. The people who are reading said article will most likely run it on a separate drive or partition anyways, like I am.
As a side note, I find it very stupid that Aero doesn't run smoothly on many retail PCs today. Usually when I walk into a PC store, I'll simply press Win+Tab to get a rough estimate of Aero performance on the PC very quickly. I honestly think its ridiculous that effects like flip 3D don't look smooth on many PCs today, regardless of how cheap they are. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Compaq CQ50-107NR OS Windows 7 Build 7077 x64 CPU AMD Athlon Dual Core QL-60 - 1.9Ghz Memory 2GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8200 M G Screen Resolution 1280 x 800 Hard Drives 120GB, Not sure of RPM but prolly 5400 or lower. |
23 Jan 2009
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#19 | | window 7 Professional 64bit |
I have been running 64 bit for over a year now and have installed 8 gig of ram the machine runs perfectly but some of the manufacturers are a bit slow in updating software but most 32 bit software runs fine | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number home built by me OS window 7 Professional 64bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Motherboard ASUS P5WDG2 WS Pro Memory 8192MB RAM Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 Sound Card Logitech Z5500 Digital PC Multimedia Home Theatre Speakers Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster913n 19" Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Microsoft wireless laser mouse 6000 v2 Mouse Microsoft wireless laser mouse 6000 PSU Antec Signature Premium 650W Power Supply Case Antec P182 Super Midi Tower Case Cooling Zalman CNPS9700-NT nVidia Tritium CPU Cooler Hard Drives 2 Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache Internet Speed broadband 8meg |
23 Jan 2009
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#20 | | |
everybody here seems to forget that 90% of the people who run windows don't know the difference between 32 bit and 64 bit. moreover, they wouldn't notice a difference if they upgraded.
64 bit is for power users, and it will remain this way until 32 bit is no longer widely available, simply because nobody knows what it is. | My System Specs | | OS 7600 x86 CPU Core 2 Duo e7200, 2.53 ghz Motherboard Micro-Star MS-7529 Memory 2x DDR2 PC5300 1gb, 667 mhz Graphics Card GeForce 9500gt, 512mb Monitor(s) Displays 22" LG Flatron w2234s Screen Resolution 1680x1050 PSU CoolerMaster M520 Hard Drives Excelstor SATA-II 250gb 7200rpm, 8mb cache Internet Speed 30/20 mbits Why You Should Go 64-Bit With Win7 problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:02 AM. | |