| Windows 7: Intel will not support Linux on its Clover Trail processors |
17 Sep 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Bay Area Peninsula |
Intel will not support Linux on its Clover Trail processors Quote: You'd think this sort of stuff belonged to the past - but no. Apparently, Microsoft is afraid of Android on its Windows 8 tablets, because Intel has just announced that it will provide no support for Linux on its clover Trail processors. Supposedly, this chip is "designed for Windows 8". What? Source
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17 Sep 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (upgrade) Lethbridge, AB |
My guess is that it includes some stuff that Intel wants to keep a trade secret, but that stuff would be revealed in open source drivers.
Basically it means they can keep some of the technologies secret without being liable for managing linux drivers.
Intel is traditionally very good at making their chips linux friendly, so it's good that they are explicit from the get go about this, instead of the OSS community getting a rude surprise when they start working on running linux on it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple 17" iMac MA199LL (Early 2006) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (upgrade) CPU 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo Memory 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300) (upgrade) Graphics Card ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB GDDR3 memory Monitor(s) Displays 17-inch TFT active-matrix LCD, millions of colors Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 Keyboard Microsoft Wired Keyboard 600 Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 Hard Drives Hitachi 320GB HDT721032SLA360 7200RPM SATA II (upgrade) Internet Speed 4 Mbps Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Google Chrome Other Info WEI:
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21 Sep 2012
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#3 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 Italy |
meh, reverse engineering stuff is pretty fun for Linux devs. Unless it's a really alien setup, they will figure it out and adapt even if Intel isn't cooperating.
Still, I don't like where this is going. I don't want a cadre of walled-garden electronic appliances, I want a PC damnit. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number custom built OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 CPU AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3 Motherboard ASUS M4A78 Memory 4,00 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks! Keyboard Microsoft, whatever. Mouse Optical, logitec. PSU whatever, around 450w Case Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old Cooling CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy Hard Drives (1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD Internet Speed effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up Antivirus Avira, free endition. Browser Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome Other Info Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
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21 Sep 2012
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#4 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
What else. Last year I had to return a $1200 laptop to Sony because they did not support Linux - and they admitted it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
21 Sep 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
I'm thinking that Intel makes the chip and they can and should be able to make it anyway they want to. For what ever reason they choose. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
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21 Sep 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (upgrade) Lethbridge, AB |

Quote: Originally Posted by bobafetthotmail meh, reverse engineering stuff is pretty fun for Linux devs. Unless it's a really alien setup, they will figure it out and adapt even if Intel isn't cooperating. That's the thing. This way Intel doesn't have to devote resources to Linux support or be liable, especially if they can't make their drivers open source.
It may be dissapointing, but the linux people just need to poach some developers from Cyagonmod. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple 17" iMac MA199LL (Early 2006) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (upgrade) CPU 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo Memory 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300) (upgrade) Graphics Card ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB GDDR3 memory Monitor(s) Displays 17-inch TFT active-matrix LCD, millions of colors Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 Keyboard Microsoft Wired Keyboard 600 Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 Hard Drives Hitachi 320GB HDT721032SLA360 7200RPM SATA II (upgrade) Internet Speed 4 Mbps Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Google Chrome Other Info WEI:
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22 Sep 2012
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I think this is a huge mistake on intel's part. To ignore Linux, bsd, and any other open platform is a mistake plain and simple. I for one enjoy the fact that there are groups devoted to the advancement of technologies that take full advantage of the hardware available. Sad that these developers will most likely never get the recognition they deserve, but they will have a firm follower in me and I hope many others will follow suit. O | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Samsung Chronos 7 OS windows 7 Pro 64Bit CPU 2.2 GHz Intel Core i7-2675QM Memory 8GB Graphics Card Intel HD Graphics 3000/Radeon HD 6490M Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Built in LCD and external Dell 22 inch LCD Screen Resolution 1600x900 Hard Drives 1 TB HDD Internet Speed 20 MBPS Down 1500 KBPS Up |
22 Sep 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Bay Area Peninsula |
Intel's new Clover Trail chip will support Android & Linux Quote: In an e-mail from an Intel spokesperson, Intel said, "Intel has plans for another version of this platform directed at Linux/Android; however we are not commenting on the platform specifics or market segments at this time. Stay tuned.” Source
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22 Sep 2012
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#9 | | Windows 8 Pro Standish, Lancashire, England |
Over the years I've installed Linux on all sorts of devices it was never meant to be installed on (Satellite & Cable boxes, games consoles etc) I dont think Intel not supporting it will stop the Linux guys putting it on there. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number doofenshmirtz evil incorporated OS Windows 8 Pro CPU Intel Core i7-3970X Extreme Edition Motherboard ASRock X79 EXTREME11 Memory 32GB (8x4GB) Corsair DDR3 Dominator Platinum Graphics Card 2x 3GB EVGA GTX 660 Ti Superclocked+ Sound Card Creative Monitor(s) Displays 3 x27" Dell & 2 x 23" Dell Screen Resolution 3 @ 2560x1440 & 2 @ 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Ergononic 7000 Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU 1500W ThermalTake Toughpower Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Cooling Antec Kúhler H2O 620 CPU Watercooler Hard Drives 240GB Intel 520 Series, 2.5" SSD, SATA III
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22 Sep 2012
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#10 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 Italy |
Quote: Intel has plans for another version of this platform directed at Linux/Android Much better. Although the other non-linux-friendly version remains a tasty treat for those nasty linux devs. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear I'm thinking that Intel makes the chip and they can and should be able to make it anyway they want to. For what ever reason they choose. The same applies to Microsoft and Windows 8, still, saying it's a stupid choice remains our right. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number custom built OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 CPU AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3 Motherboard ASUS M4A78 Memory 4,00 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks! Keyboard Microsoft, whatever. Mouse Optical, logitec. PSU whatever, around 450w Case Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old Cooling CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy Hard Drives (1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD Internet Speed effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up Antivirus Avira, free endition. Browser Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome Other Info Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
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