| Windows 7: Teen electrocuted while working on unplugged computer |
10 Oct 2012
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#21 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Hampton VA |

Quote: Originally Posted by 0pTicaL 
Quote: Originally Posted by boohbah reading through the comments this one was the only decent comment, poor kids family will be devastated. Quote: The lack of respect here for the death of a young person is saddening. He was a geek like the rest of us and his death was accidental. He could've grown to be the next Steve Jobs and his family is likely crushed. RIP. Posted by kurokitsune His death is tragic, yes, but he was not a geek. A real geek would have known better. A real geek would know how to discharge all remaining power before working on a PSU. Just like people who clean windows on skyscrapers know they should be wearing a safety harness at all times.
Apparently in the tech field, too often you see people who think they know it all, and sadly this is one of the more extreme results. I have to somewhat disagree as all of us DON'T necessarily use safe practices while working around electronics. We should, but most of us just take for granted it won't happen since I've done this a thousand times. And when stories like this pop up we realize how lucky we were, and hopefully get back to the basics of safety.
That said, as a youngster I got a good jolt messing with the high voltage fly back wire on a picture tube. Taught me a good lesson about that wire! Thank god I'm still here. Recently while performing some repairs on my 40 inch CRT tubed TV, I made darn sure I discharged that cap.
I also have to admit I’ve opened up a few power supplies and poked around myself
Anyway, it's good that Brink posted this as a reminder that we can't take electricity for granted... even in a computer. Hopefully some learn from this tragedy. | My System Specs |
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10 Oct 2012
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#22 | | Win 7 Ultimate (64-bit), Win 7 Pro (32-bit) N. Calif |

Quote: Originally Posted by bdstx4 All it takes is 28Vdc and 50milliamps to stop your heart. Be careful people. It only takes a small amount of current to pass thru your heart and interrupt the rhythm of your heartbeat. How much voltage is required to do that varies greatly due to many factors such as how close to the heart the contact point is, the moisture content of your skin, humidity, etc... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built, Dell Inspiron 1520 Laptop OS Win 7 Ultimate (64-bit), Win 7 Pro (32-bit) CPU 3.4Ghz 3770K i7, 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo Motherboard Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H, Dell Memory 8G, 3G Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5770, Mobile Intel 965 Sound Card High Definition Audio (Built-in to mobo) Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2409W 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard IBM Model M - used continuously since 1986 Mouse Microsoft PSU Antec Case Antec 100 Cooling CM 212+ Hard Drives 128G SSD OS; 1.5T & 2T Data on Desktop, 320G for laptop Internet Speed 1.5M down 1.2M up :-( Other Info Also have an Acer Aspire netbook, a home-built AMD Dual core (Minecraft server) and home-built Pent 4 all running Win 7. Also have various machines running XP, Win Server 2K, Win Server 2003, Linux and DOS. I think I have a problem... |
10 Oct 2012
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#23 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
Does holding the power button for x seconds actually discharge the residual power in the capacitors or is that for something else?
Yesterday my nephew was swapping in a new PSU for my Dad's desktop which was left only with a blinking green LED on back of PSU. He reported that when he plugged up the new PSU it had a solid green. Does this LED show residual power, or just power on? | My System Specs | | |
10 Oct 2012
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#24 | | Dual-boot: Windows 7 HP 32-bit SP1 & Windows XP Pro 32-bit SP2. Battle, near Hastings, UK |
I really do feel sorry for those parents. Whatever he thought he was doing, he obviously didn't heed any warnings etc at all. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Advent OS Dual-boot: Windows 7 HP 32-bit SP1 & Windows XP Pro 32-bit SP2. CPU AMD Phenom X4 9550 2.8Ghz Motherboard FOXCONN A6VMX (Socket 940) Memory 4.0GB RAM Graphics Card 256MB On-board ATI Radeon X1200 Series Sound Card UnKnown Monitor(s) Displays 19" TFT Mointor Screen Resolution 1400 by 900 Keyboard HP Keyboard Hard Drives 500GB Western Digital WDC Internet Speed Dial-up via Mobile phone (Three) Other Info 80GB External Hard-drive.
Also I have an old Windows XP Laptop for backup/occasional use etc. |
10 Oct 2012
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#25 | | Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 6.01.7600 SP1 (x64) MILTON KEYNES |
so sad 16 years is nothing thanks for sharing this brink | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number packard bell IXTREME M5722 OS Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 6.01.7600 SP1 (x64) CPU Processor : Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 @ 2500 MHz Motherboard Mainboard : Packard Bell (Acer EG43M ) Memory Physical Memory :8GB Corsair4x 2GB 800MHz C5 DDR2 Graphics Card Video Card : XFX 6700 AMD Monitor(s) Displays Maestro 234DL - BenQ V2220 - BenQ VW2420H Screen Resolution Current Display :1920x1080p pixels at 60 Hz in HD LED Keyboard Gigabyte Aivia K8100 Mouse TRUST-Wireless Laser Mouse - Carbon edition MI-7770C PSU XFX ProSeries 550W PSU Case PACKARD BELL IXTREME Cooling System Blower Current: 150mA Air Flow16CFM ;Akasa 90mm rear Hard Drives Hard Disks : WDC (1000 GB)
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10 Oct 2012
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#26 | | Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 6.01.7600 SP1 (x64) MILTON KEYNES |

Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker Does holding the power button for x seconds actually discharge the residual power in the capacitors or is that for something else?
Yesterday my nephew was swapping in a new PSU for my Dad's desktop which was left only with a blinking green LED on back of PSU. He reported that when he plugged up the new PSU it had a solid green. Does this LED show residual power, or just power on? even when you think you have discharged the psu by pressing the power button down the capacitors still hold power same as a old style tv etc, i used to work on coolers many years ago and when we unplugged them to refurbish them we had to discharge the capacitor connected to the refrigeration unit using a heavy insulated tool that shortened it out. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number packard bell IXTREME M5722 OS Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 6.01.7600 SP1 (x64) CPU Processor : Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 @ 2500 MHz Motherboard Mainboard : Packard Bell (Acer EG43M ) Memory Physical Memory :8GB Corsair4x 2GB 800MHz C5 DDR2 Graphics Card Video Card : XFX 6700 AMD Monitor(s) Displays Maestro 234DL - BenQ V2220 - BenQ VW2420H Screen Resolution Current Display :1920x1080p pixels at 60 Hz in HD LED Keyboard Gigabyte Aivia K8100 Mouse TRUST-Wireless Laser Mouse - Carbon edition MI-7770C PSU XFX ProSeries 550W PSU Case PACKARD BELL IXTREME Cooling System Blower Current: 150mA Air Flow16CFM ;Akasa 90mm rear Hard Drives Hard Disks : WDC (1000 GB)
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#27 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
This thread may literally be a lifesaver because I was soon going to take apart my Uncle's big screen plasma TV to see if I can spot capacitor damage after it (possibly) fried during power surge. I have a video showing how to do this but with nothing said about discharging residual current. Will a voltage tester suffice held on the leads of a capacitor which appears to need replacement? | My System Specs | | |
10 Oct 2012
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#28 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service Pack 1 Doncaster, UK |
Discharging a capacitor involves placing a load across its terminals so that the stored energy is dissipated safely. The load is typically a wirewound power resistor, although a mains light bulb can also be used. If a voltmeter is connected in parallel, you can also see the residual voltage reduce until it is close to zero (although it will probably never actually be exactly zero).
A word of warning: Never touch the terminals of the capacitor directly, and also be aware that any residual power left in any other capacitors could potentially recharge the capacitor you have discharged. Ideally, you need to isolate one of the capacitor terminals from the rest of the circuitry to prevent this from happening. Above all, never try to discharge a capacitor by merely shorting its terminals, as this can lead to the capacitor rapidly overheating, with the resultant possibility of it exploding or even catching fire (or both). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dwarf Dwf/11/2012 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service Pack 1 CPU Intel Core-i5-3570K 4-core @ 3.4GHz (Ivy Bridge) (OC 4.2GHz) Motherboard ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M Memory 4 x 4GB DDR3-1600 Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B (16GB) Graphics Card 2 x AMD Radeon HD7770 1GB CrossFired (OC 1100MHz/1250MHz) Sound Card Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 898) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen (VGA) Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 3000 (USB) Mouse Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000 for Business (USB) PSU XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular Case Gigabyte IF233 Cooling 1 x 120mm Front Inlet 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust Hard Drives OCZ Agility 3 SSD 120GB SATA III x2 (RAID 0)
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10 Oct 2012
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#29 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Hampton VA |

Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker Does holding the power button for x seconds actually discharge the residual power in the capacitors or is that for something else?
Yesterday my nephew was swapping in a new PSU for my Dad's desktop which was left only with a blinking green LED on back of PSU. He reported that when he plugged up the new PSU it had a solid green. Does this LED show residual power, or just power on? Yes. And some capacitors can hold charges for days, maybe even weeks! Also some can hold large amounts of current. But, I would think a typical power supply's capacitor would only hard a charge for a couple of hours.
- HowStuffWorks "How Capacitors Work"
- How to Discharge a Capacitor: 5 steps - wikiHow | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory 12 gig Corsair DDR3 Dominator GT Memory (3X 4GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (256GB). Storage - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB) & 2TB WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
10 Oct 2012
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#30 | | Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 6.01.7600 SP1 (x64) MILTON KEYNES |

Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker This thread may literally be a lifesaver because I was soon going to take apart my Uncle's big screen plasma TV to see if I can spot capacitor damage after it (possibly) fried during power surge. I have a video showing how to do this but with nothing said about discharging residual current. Will a voltage tester suffice held on the leads of a capacitor which appears to need replacement? thanks dwarf has answered with good advice for you gregrocker exactly what i would of told you for discharging a capacitor. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number packard bell IXTREME M5722 OS Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 6.01.7600 SP1 (x64) CPU Processor : Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 @ 2500 MHz Motherboard Mainboard : Packard Bell (Acer EG43M ) Memory Physical Memory :8GB Corsair4x 2GB 800MHz C5 DDR2 Graphics Card Video Card : XFX 6700 AMD Monitor(s) Displays Maestro 234DL - BenQ V2220 - BenQ VW2420H Screen Resolution Current Display :1920x1080p pixels at 60 Hz in HD LED Keyboard Gigabyte Aivia K8100 Mouse TRUST-Wireless Laser Mouse - Carbon edition MI-7770C PSU XFX ProSeries 550W PSU Case PACKARD BELL IXTREME Cooling System Blower Current: 150mA Air Flow16CFM ;Akasa 90mm rear Hard Drives Hard Disks : WDC (1000 GB)
Drive C: (Hard Disk) : 428 GB available on 491 GB
Drive D: (Hard Disk) : 426 GB available on 492 GB
SAMSUNG spinpoint HD103SJ 1000.2 GB
(X 2) KINGSTON SSD NOW V 30GB Internet Speed TP-LINK > TL-WN951N / AV500 Gigabit Powerline Adapters Other Info EXTRA COOLING>(FAN CONTROLLER) PC Bay Cooler 3 x 40mm fans; Akasa AK-HD-BL Blue hard drive cooler 2 x 40 mm fan 4500 rpm 29.7 dBA
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