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Windows 7: No plans for Windows 7 SP2

29 Oct 2012   #31
King Arthur

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by daydr3am3r View Post
Again, someone suggest that MS will eventually release a new SP, even if it will only contain all updates starting from SP1 till that day, without any performance improvements and/ore new features.
However, I don't recall MS ever doing this so I doubt they will be doing it now, when they try to move users to Windows 8.
Windows 2000 had one with its "Update Rollup 1 for SP4" which followed SP4 and replaced the then-planned SP5 (Wikipedia).


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29 Oct 2012   #32
SIW2

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Do you think the average Joe walking into a computer store is going to realise that?

They will just buy a machine in their price range that they like the look of.

It just happens to have Win8 on.

They won't know what succumbing to the constant urging to go to the MS clouds will lead to.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lkgriffith View Post
Microsoft has already made two separated editions of Windows. One for the desktop: Windows 7 and one for tablets: Windows 8. The only problem is they plan to kill Windows 7 rather than make it better.

They insist the future will only be workable for people who only want to consume content, bought only from them, using hand held battery powered toys. Unless they change their path, don't expect Windows 9 to be anything but more of the same. Windows 8 is not even as good as a Vista 2.0. It is Windows 1.0 rising out of the murky depths of ancient history stripped of nearly everything that made it useful and made much harder to use.

Microsoft seems to think they can survive satisfying teenagers and their mental equivalents who are tweeting, facebooking, watching videos, trading photos, etc. They hope they can get away with giving the finger to the very large population of computer users who do real work with real computers. This last group are the ones who actually create the valuable content that Microsoft plans to conscript and make a profit from. What is worse, the productive users are expected to create that valuable content working with a toy OS on battery powered toys bounded on every side by Microsoft restrictions.

IBM tried very much the same thing in the 1970s and got shoved unto a corner: hard. They got replaced by minicomputers and eventually PC desktop computers. They were almost dead until they re-invented themselves as a service company. They have yet to achieve their former glory of owning the word "computer" and the belief that "No one ever got fired for specifying IBM".

What IBM forgot and Microsoft seems to have forgotten, is that computer power in the hands of a productive individual makes them more productive and more effective. This happens only when they don't have to ask "mother may I" to do what they need to do with that power. The goal seems to be to convert the computer power into a leash around the neck of a user and a vacuum hose into the user's bank account. Thereby to charge a fee for every required "mother may I" request. I see no reason to fall down that rabbit hole.
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29 Oct 2012   #33
SIW2

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Someone suggested that this will move users away from MS and Windows instead of pushing them to Windows 8.
I can't agree with this, especially when Vista didn't.
Sure, maybe some of us can do this. Start using Linux or OS X. But I doubt everyone (or a large number of users, so large that will determine MS to change it's strategy) will.
If you're a company that relies on Windows and other MS technologies, migrating the entire infrastructure from Windows to Linux or OS X will cost so much that will determine companies to stick with Windows 7 as long as they can and then switch to Windows 8/9 and invest in personnel training.
Yes, exactly. There isn't really any choice, except in tablets/phones.

That is why MS can do pretty much what they want - and get away with it.

It would be fantastic if there was a viable alternative.

That would be better for everybody.
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29 Oct 2012   #34
lkgriffith

Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit
 
 

SIW2,

From my experience, the "average Joe" does not understand that he is standing naked and unarmed in the middle of a trackless jungle with hungry predators on all sides: above, below, inside, and out. He doesn't even have the skill or knowledge to distinguish between the "specialist" who can and will help him and the one who will help themselves to everything he has. Unfortunately, we so called "specialists" are not much better off. We may be wearing a loin cloth, have a Swiss Army Knife, and some bug spray we can use but little else. Even then, when we forget to pay attention, we can easily get eaten.

That anything works in this kind of environment is almost a miracle. Fortunately a lot of things do work.
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29 Oct 2012   #35
SIW2

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Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Our job to try and let people know as best we can.
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29 Oct 2012   #36
x BlueRobot

 

Had a look at a Windows 8 Video Review today, and the UI is so similar to the Xbox 360 Dashboard (yes, us 360 gamers are forced to stay with the Windows 8 Metro-style apps). The Desktop is now a running application which can be stopped, so there is now no start menu or permanent desktop, just a bland homepage full of advertisements and app store clutter.

From the video, it appears you have to have a Windows Live account in order to log on and use your PC, with notifications also being sent to your system, for instance e-mails, that would be very irritating with notifications coming at me when I'm doing my coursework or something. Windows 8 looks and feels like an Xbox 360 Dashboard with a few little extras for the PC.

Why haven't Microsoft then prepared a Windows 7 SP2 update in order to roll up all the loose system updates which seem to be being released individually recently?
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29 Oct 2012   #37
qwertymikey

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

sorry im stupid but what does a service pack do ?? adds security? improvements?

whats the difference between a service pack and a normal update
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29 Oct 2012   #38
hArLtRoN

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by qwertymikey View Post
sorry im stupid but what does a service pack do ?? adds security? improvements?

whats the difference between a service pack and a normal update
Your not stupid, its a valid question. A service pack is a compilation of a bunch of updates. That way you only have to install ONE UPDATE, the service pack, and you could have 100+ updates installed.

Source
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29 Oct 2012   #39
qwertymikey

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by harltron View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by qwertymikey View Post
sorry im stupid but what does a service pack do ?? Adds security? Improvements?

whats the difference between a service pack and a normal update
your not stupid, its a valid question. A service pack is a compilation of a bunch of updates. That way you only have to install one update, the service pack, and you could have 100+ updates installed.

source
thanks, i wish i could like your post
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30 Oct 2012   #40
Carl Lawrence

Dual-boot: Windows 7 HP 32-bit SP1 & Windows XP Pro 32-bit SP2.
 
 

I don't think Windows 7 needs another service pack, it is so reilable.
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