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Windows 7: No plans for Windows 7 SP2


05 Nov 2012   #81

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 retail
 
 

Microsoft was clever enough to make Windows 7.
Microsoft was clever enough to make Windows 8.
Microsoft was clever enough to make me buy Windows 8.
I was stupid enough to buy it, allthough I had a fine Windows 7 Ultimate licens.
I was stupid enough to install Windows 8 Pro.

Now who is the smartest part you think?

With all respect to Microsoft, I think I am, as now I again did a reformat, and made a new Windows 7 Ultimate installation, now with an Intel Rapid Start partition, so boottime is no longer a problem for me
From completly off and to type my password for windows login is now about 10 seconds. Now beat that, WINDOWS 8 .

I would love a SP2 for windows 7 though, as there are really many patches to install after a new windows7SP1 install

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06 Nov 2012   #82

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

How about this.
Upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8 $39.95
Go back to Windows 7 from Windows 8 $139.95
Just a idea. I hope Microsoft doesn't read this.
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06 Nov 2012   #83

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. (On both machines)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lkgriffith View Post
Bertison,

I am well into my 70's - 75 to be specific. My guess is that I too will stay on Windows 7 with our without MS support until I can no longer use a computer. However, I have a rather significant software product dependent upon having an actual Windows Desktop capability. It runs on XP and 7. I have forced it to compile and run on Windows 8 but the process was not pretty, the result was butt ugly, and I am very unhappy with the result.

As a consequence, my concern is not support life, it is how long will Windows 7 be available for purchase by my customers for new systems. As near as I can tell right now, that life is roughly two years. Not quite enough unless I am really lucky and sell out for $40meg or become senile or die before the age of 77.
LKG, I hope neither of the last 2 scenarios happens!

Selling out for mega bucks is the more atrractive option, I would say. So you are still running a business at 75, good for you. I last worked like that in 2000, unfortunately in my country the only way you find employment as you get older, is in the supermarket or B & Q (Home Depot I think is the USA equivalent) stacking shelves or "Greeting" customers.

My last work, self-employed, was printing business stationery, brochures, prospectuses for educational establishments and anything I could get. That kind of entrepeneurial spirit was killed off by the then socialist government, I had so much red tape to wade through and the tax situation was hopeless. Might improve soon, GB is set to become the fastest - growing economy in Europe in the next few years. And all because we did not join the Euro. Now, if David Cameron just gives us a Referendum, I believe we will vote to leave the EU and be a better country, with better prospects.

Our government is coming around to the notion of open source (Linux) software, but that will not help all those in the private sector running Windows 7 (and many still with XP). Those companies will also be hampered by the bloody awful mess that is Win8.
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06 Nov 2012   #84

Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit
 
 

One thing to remember is that Windows 8 is only being forced upon consumers, not upon businesses. Businesses with a Microsoft per-seat site license will be free to wipe Windows 8 and install Windows 7 until the end of support for Windows 7, which is 2020. And frankly, most consumers will be just as happy with Windows 8 as they are with Windows 7, once they install VLC or some other DVD-playing software to replace the functionality that Microsoft arbitrarily yanked out of Windows 8 and made into an extra-cost add-on. And a real backup program (Windows 8 doesn't have one, that does a system image), but since most people don't back up their Windows 7 system (less than 1/5th of Windows users do regular backups, sigh!)...
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06 Nov 2012   #85

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Does give the impression that Windows 7 is worth 4 times as much as win8.

I don't know what all the win8 final prices will be after this win8 fire sale - but I think they will come out close to half the price of Windows 7.

You might wonder why MS are doing that.

Surely, they will get less money in if they sell the new os at a much lower price than it's predecessor.

Not necessarily.

There is a well known marketing technique called Full Line Forcing.

At it 's simplest - that means sell the original product at a very low price - then make your money on what the users keep buying as a result of that first purchase. I.E you are forcing the rest of the line on the original purchasers.

E.G Sell a very attractive beautifully designed aluminium wet razor - none of that plastic rubbish - at a great price.

Having bought that great bargain -you then realise the blades are not exactly cheap.

What do you do? Throw away the thing you just bought - or pay the extra dollar for a pack of blades. You pay that extra dollar for every pack - for years.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
How about this.
Upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8 $39.95
Go back to Windows 7 from Windows 8 $139.95
Just a idea. I hope Microsoft doesn't read this.
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06 Nov 2012   #86

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium x86 Service Pack 1 - Linux Mint Mate 14 x64
 
 

I wouldn't say that Windows 7 needs a new SP for patches, but rather a SP to wrap up all the updates and also improve the performance of the kernel, so it has the boot time of Windows 8, however, I'm sure a SSD would just provide this performance boost.
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06 Nov 2012   #87

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

I am not sure what this business is about boot time.

I do not see it on my machine. Might be system dependent - win8 is actually the slowest boot up of any of my installed o/s. I only have a couple of programs installed in it.

It would be faster with hybrid boot - but I have no use for that as I am multibooting.

In any case - it is not a big deal. Who cares for a few seconds at start up.

Having said that - you do expect a phone to start up quickly.
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06 Nov 2012   #88

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

When did 6 to 10 sec. difference in boot time become the the main thing to judge a operating system. Who cares. Like SIW2 I don't understand.
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06 Nov 2012   #89

Windows 7 professional X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by badtux View Post
One thing to remember is that Windows 8 is only being forced upon consumers, not upon businesses. Businesses with a Microsoft per-seat site license will be free to wipe Windows 8 and install Windows 7 until the end of support for Windows 7, which is 2020. And frankly, most consumers will be just as happy with Windows 8 as they are with Windows 7, once they install VLC or some other DVD-playing software to replace the functionality that Microsoft arbitrarily yanked out of Windows 8 and made into an extra-cost add-on. And a real backup program (Windows 8 doesn't have one, that does a system image), but since most people don't back up their Windows 7 system (less than 1/5th of Windows users do regular backups, sigh!)...

Actually windows 8 is being forced upon businesses within microsofts partner network, as soon as their one year plans expire they received new software sicne they are promised to obtain the newest and most modern programs, so no. By the end of their yearly server they -will- have to switch to windows 8 since they will no longer receive support for windows 7.
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06 Nov 2012   #90

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

They have left windows 7 system image thing in Win8.

Oddly hidden under the control panel as Windows 7 file recovery, or similar - can't remember the exact name - I am not in win8 atm.
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