| Windows 7: Why the Windows 7 Taskbar Beats Mac OS X's Dock |
21 Jan 2009
|
#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Why the Windows 7 Taskbar Beats Mac OS X's Dock Quote: Yeah, I said it. The Windows 7 taskbar is the most important Windows UI change since Windows 95, and it will dramatically change the way you use Windows. And it's better than the Mac's Dock. That's because the "superbar"—as the taskbar is known by developers—jerks taskbar functionality in a new direction. It's no longer merely a window manager—just a place to manage open windows and by proxy, open applications. It's now a bona fide application launcher. More than that, it blends the two in ways that will remind many of the OS X Dock—apps that are running and those that aren't can live together. True, you've been able to launch apps from the Windows taskbar's Quick Launch ghetto for ages, but that's been demolished so that Microsoft could completely and seamlessly integrate the launching of new apps and the managing of running ones. source: Giz Explains: Why the Windows 7 Taskbar Beats Mac OS X's Dock | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Airbot 2.0 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 920 (D0) @ 4Ghz, *26c idle *65c full load on air Motherboard Asus P6X58D Premium - Sata 6Gb/s - USB 3.0 Memory 12GB DDR3 Corsair Dominator -CMD12GX3M6A1600C8 at 1600MHz Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 480 -Aftermaket Accelero Xtreme Plus cooler Sound Card ASUS Xonar D2X Monitor(s) Displays 1 LG 24" Flatron W2453V-PF 1 Samsung 24" P2450H both 2ms RT Screen Resolution 1920x1080@60hz Keyboard Logitech Wireless MK700 Mouse Logitech Wireless MK700 PSU Corsair HX1000W Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Cooling Case Fans *3 230mm, *1 140mm/CPU - *Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme Hard Drives 1 OCZ Vertex2 180GB SSD
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 7200RPM 32MB cache
2 500GB WD Caviar Blacks 7200RPM 32MB cache (WD5001AALS)
Pioneer DVD Burner DVR-S18M Internet Speed DL 15 Mbps UL 0.98 Mbps Antivirus None Browser Firefox Nightly Other Info Processor-7.7 *RAM- 7.9 *Graphics-7.9 *Gaming Graphics- 7.9 *SSD- 7.8 W.E.I final score= 7.7
*Phone- Samsung Galaxy Nexus |
21 Jan 2009
|
#2 | | Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64 Maine, USA |
When I can drag and drop a bunch of files on the icon for a program pinned to the task bar, and have that launch the program with those files opened in the program, instead of pinning those files to the jumplist, then and only then will my quick launch bar be gone.
But I do love the 'superbar'.
Gary | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS420 OS Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64 CPU Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 gigahertz Memory Crucial Ballistix 4x2GB PC2 6400 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 256 MB Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi audio Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207 + HPvs15 Screen Resolution 1680x1050 + 1024x768 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Mouse MX Revolution Hard Drives 2-WD5000AAKS-500 GB
WD5000AAV-500 GB external Other Info Wacom Intuos 2 Graphics Tablet
Experience Index=5.5 |
21 Jan 2009
|
#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Yes, I agree. They can still expand on it. You should send them feedback on that idea. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Airbot 2.0 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 920 (D0) @ 4Ghz, *26c idle *65c full load on air Motherboard Asus P6X58D Premium - Sata 6Gb/s - USB 3.0 Memory 12GB DDR3 Corsair Dominator -CMD12GX3M6A1600C8 at 1600MHz Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 480 -Aftermaket Accelero Xtreme Plus cooler Sound Card ASUS Xonar D2X Monitor(s) Displays 1 LG 24" Flatron W2453V-PF 1 Samsung 24" P2450H both 2ms RT Screen Resolution 1920x1080@60hz Keyboard Logitech Wireless MK700 Mouse Logitech Wireless MK700 PSU Corsair HX1000W Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Cooling Case Fans *3 230mm, *1 140mm/CPU - *Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme Hard Drives 1 OCZ Vertex2 180GB SSD
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 7200RPM 32MB cache
2 500GB WD Caviar Blacks 7200RPM 32MB cache (WD5001AALS)
Pioneer DVD Burner DVR-S18M Internet Speed DL 15 Mbps UL 0.98 Mbps Antivirus None Browser Firefox Nightly Other Info Processor-7.7 *RAM- 7.9 *Graphics-7.9 *Gaming Graphics- 7.9 *SSD- 7.8 W.E.I final score= 7.7
*Phone- Samsung Galaxy Nexus |
21 Jan 2009
|
#4 | | Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64 Maine, USA |
I've done that a couple times in different builds. Hope they listen as this is a common way for me to open my graphics programs. Someone will send me several pics to get web ready and I just grab them all and drop them on the icon in the quicklaunch bar and the program opens with all the pics in it ready for me to use.
For anyone who might want to try this, you cannot use the shortcuts from the start menu in Vista or Seven as they are not a normal shortcut. You will need to go to the .exe file in Explorer and right click drag to the quicklaunch bar and select 'create shortcut here' from the menu that pops up.
The shortcut can be on the desktop, but I dislike the clutter.
Gary | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS420 OS Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64 CPU Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 gigahertz Memory Crucial Ballistix 4x2GB PC2 6400 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 256 MB Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi audio Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207 + HPvs15 Screen Resolution 1680x1050 + 1024x768 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Mouse MX Revolution Hard Drives 2-WD5000AAKS-500 GB
WD5000AAV-500 GB external Other Info Wacom Intuos 2 Graphics Tablet
Experience Index=5.5 |
21 Jan 2009
|
#5 | | Vista Ult 64bit - Windows 7 Ult 7264 64bit Frozen North |
I like that idea too Gary, adds another level of functionality to the superbar.
Personally, I really like the way this new superbar behaves and feels so far. I like the new icons instead of quick launch and it's easier to see what has the focus, plus I like how it's color coded for certain items.
And the mulit-live thumbnail views on stacked items really rox, especially with a Close button on the live thumb for quick disposal of unwanted pages/items.
It may need some tweaks but I think MS has hit on a winner with this one.
Dave | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Personal Build OS Vista Ult 64bit - Windows 7 Ult 7264 64bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Motherboard Asus Commando Memory 4 G's Crucial Ballistix Tracer Graphics Card BFG Nvidia 8800 GTS 340 Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Platinum FATAL1TY Monitor(s) Displays 2-22" HP W2207 LCD Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech MX 5500 Mouse Logitech MX Revolution PSU Enermax Noise Taker II 600W Case NZXT Lexa Classic (dual doored & windowed) Cooling Zalman 9700 CPU cooler - 4 x 120mm, 1 x 90mm fans Hard Drives 3 x 500G WD Caviar SATA II Internet Speed Blazing... |
22 Jan 2009
|
#6 | | Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64 Maine, USA |
I agree Dave.
Speaking of focus, that's another thing I've sent a couple feedbacks about. Used to be when I had several windows open and wanted to close them all, I could hold down Alt and hit F4 several times until they were all closed. Hit it again and I'd get the shutdown options. In other words the focus went from one window to the next down through the stack. Now if I close a window with Alt+F4, the focus goes to the desktop. I suppose many people prefer it that way, but I'm not one of them.
Gary | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS420 OS Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64 CPU Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 gigahertz Memory Crucial Ballistix 4x2GB PC2 6400 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 256 MB Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi audio Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207 + HPvs15 Screen Resolution 1680x1050 + 1024x768 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Mouse MX Revolution Hard Drives 2-WD5000AAKS-500 GB
WD5000AAV-500 GB external Other Info Wacom Intuos 2 Graphics Tablet
Experience Index=5.5 |
22 Jan 2009
|
#7 | | |
That looks cool.
Does it work in 7? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus 15.4" laptop OS Windows 7 7100 build CPU Intel Core 2 Duo 2.5 Motherboard Asus Memory 4gig Graphics Card Nvidia 9500 512mb mobile Monitor(s) Displays External 26" Samsung TOC (very nice!!) Screen Resolution 19200 by 1200 Hard Drives 1 320gig 7200 rpm |
22 Jan 2009
|
#8 | | Vista Ult 64bit - Windows 7 Ult 7264 64bit Frozen North |

Quote: Originally Posted by garysgold I agree Dave.
Speaking of focus, that's another thing I've sent a couple feedbacks about. Used to be when I had several windows open and wanted to close them all, I could hold down Alt and hit F4 several times until they were all closed. Hit it again and I'd get the shutdown options. In other words the focus went from one window to the next down through the stack. Now if I close a window with Alt+F4, the focus goes to the desktop. I suppose many people prefer it that way, but I'm not one of them.
Gary Hey Gary
I haven't seen that behavior yet. I did the same as you in Vista and it's a quick way of getting things shut down and ready to turn off. I wonder if the new behavior can be changed somehow...maybe a little reg hack? I'll have to look into that. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Personal Build OS Vista Ult 64bit - Windows 7 Ult 7264 64bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Motherboard Asus Commando Memory 4 G's Crucial Ballistix Tracer Graphics Card BFG Nvidia 8800 GTS 340 Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Platinum FATAL1TY Monitor(s) Displays 2-22" HP W2207 LCD Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech MX 5500 Mouse Logitech MX Revolution PSU Enermax Noise Taker II 600W Case NZXT Lexa Classic (dual doored & windowed) Cooling Zalman 9700 CPU cooler - 4 x 120mm, 1 x 90mm fans Hard Drives 3 x 500G WD Caviar SATA II Internet Speed Blazing... |
22 Jan 2009
|
#9 | | Vista Ult 64bit - Windows 7 Ult 7264 64bit Frozen North |
Hi QuadAllegory
Are your desktop icons and text actually that crooked on your desktop or is this an illusion caused by the screenshot or something?
I prefer the Live thumbs on Windows 7 (and Vista but 7's is much nicer) because you can see the actual page as is and not just a folder of where it is. Plus I'm not sure I like the background behind the desktop icon text labels with that stack program. Just personal preference I guess but I think 7's superbar and icons look more refined than that program's does.
Plus with 9 programs/pages open, that taskbar is now full where 7's would have a ton of room left I think. I have 6 open now and I'm using less than 1/4 of the bar (stacked, no text), I think it's much cleaner like this.
I do think your idea for customization is a pretty good one too, you should send in a Feedback report on it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Personal Build OS Vista Ult 64bit - Windows 7 Ult 7264 64bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Motherboard Asus Commando Memory 4 G's Crucial Ballistix Tracer Graphics Card BFG Nvidia 8800 GTS 340 Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Platinum FATAL1TY Monitor(s) Displays 2-22" HP W2207 LCD Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech MX 5500 Mouse Logitech MX Revolution PSU Enermax Noise Taker II 600W Case NZXT Lexa Classic (dual doored & windowed) Cooling Zalman 9700 CPU cooler - 4 x 120mm, 1 x 90mm fans Hard Drives 3 x 500G WD Caviar SATA II Internet Speed Blazing... |
22 Jan 2009
|
#10 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by QuadAllegory I also wish the superbar had a simple separator that could be added. I would like to separate the pinned icons from the non-pinned. This would be a great feature if they would be so nice as to add that! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus 15.4" laptop OS Windows 7 7100 build CPU Intel Core 2 Duo 2.5 Motherboard Asus Memory 4gig Graphics Card Nvidia 9500 512mb mobile Monitor(s) Displays External 26" Samsung TOC (very nice!!) Screen Resolution 19200 by 1200 Hard Drives 1 320gig 7200 rpm Why the Windows 7 Taskbar Beats Mac OS X's Dock problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:39 AM. | |