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18 Dec 2012   #91

Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
They seem to fear tablets, still cling to a 12 year old OS, and plan on running a desktop OS on a server.
It's not fear, its low budget. Economy here has been in lockdown for a while even before the crisis (absentee politicians) and there is barely enough cash to stay afloat for most smallish companies.
If they needed added security on a server, why would they avoid a server OS?
because the differences between 7 Pro and the server version are minimal (they said "Win server 2008 RT2 is just Win7 pro with a facelift"), while costs are higher and there is more fuss to get licences. I'm not talking of server farms of hosting services, just company servers.

Not to disregard the significant amount of servers running some kind of linux.

I also don't quite get their comments about needing to turn everything into an app.
Win8 pro tablets are basically a more portable laptop without a keyboard (but with the same price), so I thought that you were talking of the ARM versions running RT (which are also cheaper).
Also, all jobs that require a portable device are already filled with a ruggedized PDAs that work fine in far worse conditions than what a tablet could withstand. Tablets would not add anything, only costs and risks.

My company upgrades computers every three years.
heh, what they *cough*trash*cough* sell to me and similar shops still has stickers with XP pro licences, and on average was bought in 2006-2007. Laptops are an exception, and I can find anything with just a year or two, but that's because managers want their toys to be bleeding edge even if they won't do more than Office with them.

I get cheap MAK licenses due to our non-profit status.
Hey man, you're cheating.
Although I've seen my share of pirated stuff in companies (some companies with 100+ win 7 workstations and no licence to be found anywhere... a few Server 2008 R2 Datacenter worth around 5000 $ installed on suspicious machines.. ), so we can say they even the field with that.

If I closed my mind to new products and only looked backwards, I'd be failing myself and my company.
Wasting resources in useless upgrades is worse, especially if the company isn't swimming in cash. Bulk of the jobs are data insertion-retrieval and office applications from fixed emplacements. They could run Win 2000 and it would be fine.
Designers with some special need often use decrepit Mac tower computers but I've seen second-hand gaming rigs (lol two GTX 270 cards in SLI to run Maya and 3D Max) being pressed into service as well.

Then again, managers change laptop and smartphone every year, use as their personal cars the company-owned SUVs, and ... you get the idea.

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18 Dec 2012   #92

Windows 7 Pro 32/64 bit and Windows 8 Pro 32 Bit/64bit

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by x BlueRobot View Post
Can I just say, Windows 8 is like a 'acquired taste' you either like it or you don't.
lol that fits
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18 Dec 2012   #93
Dallas 7

Windows 7 Home Premium x64

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lkgriffith View Post
DeaconFrost: "My job as I.T. Manager is to find the solution that works best for each person, based on the role they fill and the work they do. My graphic designer has far different needs that our Office Manager, as an example. Someone who sits in a cubicle all day has far different needs than someone who's on the road 4-5 days a week."

Just maybe those of us who so intensely dislike Windows 8 for the desktop have many very valid reasons for doing so. Our PERSONAL and PROFESSIONAL needs, wants, requirements, and situations are seriously impacted by the many missing elements that were taken out by Microsoft. They wanted Windows 8 to work on the grossly limited environments of smart phones and touch tablets. Its desktop capabilities was all but totally sacrificed for that goal. It is not that we fear something new, we want the new actually to be better for us than the old for OUR purposes. At least enough better that it is worth the cost of changing.

As it stands, Windows 8 fails to reach as good as crappy for use on the desktop. This includes what has been done to Visual Studio 2012 and that total abomination of Microsoft Office. Yes, they can be used but only with constant frustration and seriously reduced productivity IN OUR HANDS. They are not worth the effort to use.

How about live and let live as a general rule of social and professional interaction? You use what works for you and I will use what works for me. We each get to decide what works for ourselves. You are not evil for embracing Windows 8 and I am not evil for rejecting it. We are simply different. Why isn't that simply OK? You seem to embrace part of that approach. Why not go all the way and accept that the I.T. world in Italy is simply different from yours but is still workable for them even though it won't work for you?

Uh Oh, you sound almost as "closed minded" as me! LOL

Excellent points! W8 was not designed to serve and impress desktop users, it was designed and optimized for touch screens and to save on battery life for phones and tablets at the expense of the desktop PC.
MS was so worried about cutting into Apple's mobile market, that they threw their own desktop users under the bus in pursuit of Apple's tablets.
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20 Dec 2012   #94

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bobafetthotmail View Post
Then again, managers change laptop and smartphone every year, use as their personal cars the company-owned SUVs, and ... you get the idea.
Two jobs ago, I worked for a typical "dot com" where money was no object, and the CEO's business and personal finances didn't have a clear separation. Money was spent on anything and everything he wanted, including a shower in his massive office, with a glass (clear) door. His personal assistant made $90k, and I'm sure that shower was part of her job roles. The one big lesson I've learned by working for a non-profit is that money doesn't grow on trees, and that I have to spend extra efforts getting the best deals or discounts I can find. Every dollar saved can be used elsewhere.
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