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Windows 7: Rumor - Microsoft to Release Windows Blue, the First Free Windows Ever


14 Dec 2012   #61

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

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You can't read a blog or article that doesn't make this a valid point.
Opinions don't equate to valid points. There is no blunder with Windows 8. When you read the blogs and forums of people who actually are using Windows 8, you'll find that it's been pretty well accepted, especially in the enthusiasts crowd.

The only...and yes, only feature it is missing out of the box is a Start Menu...if we're going after that warm and fuzzy comfortable feeling. That can be added very easily, and for free. Should we have been given that option during the install? Yes, we should have. But it's far from a deal killer. The more I use it, the more I like it...and the more I'm blown away at it's performance.


I never said I don't like Windows 8, there are many features which are superior to Windows 7 and other features which were left out for no apparent reason, in fact anything to do with making PC users happy were left out for reasons nobody seems to understand.

It's not just the start menu dude, it's a million other PC options which were omitted for no apparent reason other than to glorify a tablet with better battery life.
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...a-53134a0913f3

This did in fact hurt the sales of Windows 8 because nobody with a PC has any good reason to upgrade, other than better security which can be added to Windows 7 by just installing IE10.

In case you haven't noticed I'm not the only person with this exact same opinion they are all over the internet and also in this same thread so I don't feel like I'm going out on a limb here.

There is a huge market for Op system upgrades on PC's, Windows blue may help Msoft tap into that market in ways that Windows 8 could not tap into as delivered. Maybe this was part of the original plan for all we know.

Msoft can either wake up to reality of suffer the consequences. And with Windows blue it looks like they have already woken up to reality.

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15 Dec 2012   #62

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
I never said I don't like Windows 8, there are many features which are superior to Windows 7 and other features which were left out for no apparent reason, in fact anything to do with making PC users happy were left out for reasons nobody seems to understand.

It's not just the start menu dude, it's a million other PC options which were omitted for no apparent reason other than to glorify a tablet with better battery life.
Features and configuration options removed in Windows 8

This did in fact hurt the sales of Windows 8 because nobody with a PC has any good reason to upgrade, other than better security which can be added to Windows 7 by just installing IE10.

In case you haven't noticed I'm not the only person with this exact same opinion they are all over the internet and also in this same thread so I don't feel like I'm going out on a limb here.

There is a huge market for Op system upgrades on PC's, Windows blue may help Msoft tap into that market in ways that Windows 8 could not tap into as delivered. Maybe this was part of the original plan for all we know.

Msoft can either wake up to reality of suffer the consequences. And with Windows blue it looks like they have already woken up to reality.

Lets hope so.
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16 Dec 2012   #63

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

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Yeah, right - and if you don't like the taste of dog crap, simply means you haven't eaten enough of it.
Yes, that's a perfect analogy to describe a new OS. Many of those "features" in your link are nit-picking, at best. Oh no...no Free Cell! The Mayans were right!!!!
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Like I said, "new" is not automatically better. The term "Better" has to be earned, it's not automatic.
The term different also doesn't automatically mean worse. It's faster and more secure. You can try as much as you want, you aren't going to convince me that Windows 8 isn't a good OS. I'm responding to this on my HP Envy ultrabook running Windows 8, and it's running far better than Windows 7 ever did on it.
I agree with your posts about Windows8. I love I can switch between "Tiles" (It's not called Metro, people) and the Desktop, really clever for how I work. I can have a tile app running along side the desktop, I like that as well.

I'm afraid because everyone dislikes Windows8, they screw it up with Blue, then I know where to point a finger at, it won't be Microsoft.
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16 Dec 2012   #64

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Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

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Deacon, some people believe "new" automatically means "better".
Yes, and many people also assume new is "worse" or "scary" for various reasons.
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Windows 7 is a great OS. W8 is a downgrade
Exactly my point. Windows 8 is hardly a downgrade. To suggest that...well...simply means you haven't used it or given it a chance, going at it with the mindset above...that since it is a successor to a great product, it has to fail.

That's the issue I've been trying to point out. Far too many people on these boards are making comments such as yours because they didn't like the look of Metro, or some other small detail, and could turn back to Windows 7 to feel comfy and warm. On one hand, it's said to see so many people being closed-minded, but at the same time, it's a credit to how good Windows 7 is.

So, my final point is this. If you love 7, and you want to stay with it, go right ahead. I'm keeping some systems on 7, including all of my corporate systems for 2013 (aside from new purchases). But there's absolutely no reason or justifcation to sit and bash Windows 8, or the people who are really enjoying it. It's a great OS as well, because it's coming off of a great platform. It has a small learning curve, just as any new OS, but once you get passed that, it's really a nice OS to use.

Not liking it doesn't equate to "it's an awful product". Separate out fact and opinion. There are a lot of things on the market I don't like, but they can be a good product.
Agree, well stated.
Not liking it visually, doesn't mean it a bad OS, just different than the last one.
If it wasn't different then we would be hearing the just a SP comments.

I won't be surprised if Blue gives back the options many have missed, start button, disable the Start Screen, boot to desktop, etc. If for no other reason then to increase sales.
Then again, if they are feeling stubborn, they might go the other way.
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16 Dec 2012   #65

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

It is not about how it looks, tho that is an important consideration in selling any product.

It is much deeper than that.

I suspect those who claim to like it don't know what is going on.
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16 Dec 2012   #66

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

I think I know what you're referring to, and I agree, if they push too hard on forcing everything we do to their cloud, I'll be among the first to jump ship.
Finding another ship may be difficult as this seems to be the trend and won't be surprised if it becomes a standard, hopefully Linex will remain cloudless. Can't see it changing unless it is somehow bought out or silently invaded.
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16 Dec 2012   #67

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Yes. MS want you to have everything online with them. Boot up the o/s online - store everything up there - pay storage fees, usage fees, rent all your programs/apps/services thru MS. All approved by MS of course. No side loading.

Win 8 is a big step in that direction.

That is why there are so many raising concerns - including game developers/distributors who can see the platform closing.

MS still have almost almost complete dominance of the consumer market for pc's. If you have $1200 or more, you can go Apple. Everybody else gets what they are given and puts up with it.

MS are using that dominance to push thru what they think is good for MS.

That is what metro/start screen/MS account is for.That is why they shove it at the user constantly.

Many will just go along with it. Sign up for MS account as exhorted,buy apps., sync devices, store stuff up there. A few bucks here and there. Another few bucks if you go over your 7gb limit.

Once the public is doing that - not difficult to persuade them to go subscription.

That is what win8 is about.
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16 Dec 2012   #68

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit SP 1
 
 

Wow, a free Windows? That is interesting
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16 Dec 2012   #69

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

This is a good thing. Microsoft has been struggling for a long time trying to consolidate their assets (DOS, OS2/NT, Win, WinNT, etc). WinXP was the first consolidated OS - Vista, then Windows 7 finalized the remaining pieces. Win8 is a new venture moving away from the past and into the future (regardless of how anyone likes or dislikes it).

The new model "Blue" is great news. Less is More. The annual core updates means we won't have to wait 3 years for the next version of Windows. The low entry price is also great news... the annual update price concerns me though. What if you decide to skip a few years, are you then saddled with $20 x N, having to buy each annual update? I suspect that the model will be worked out so that you can buy the annual update or the Version update.

I also think that Windows Update will be around for security and hotfixes. So no one should should be too concerned about "annual updates" - they're two different animals.

This will allow MS to focus more on the here and now rather than the next 3 year cycle. I say it's a good thang!

Anyway..... this is my opinon of a rumor.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by PC World
Sacre blue!

Before you get too excited about Windows Blue (or depressed, if you're a developer who was about to get started on a Windows 8 app), Rob Enderle brings up another important consideration. "The question is, is Windows Blue pre- or post-Sinofsky?" he asks. "A lot of this stuff is in flux given his sudden departure."

Windows Blue may or may not be real, but the ideas behind the alleged upgrade hold some real potential for Microsoft's future—if the company plays its cards right. The folks in Redmond need to prove they have the institutional flexibility to implement worthwhile yearly changes, and more importantly, Microsoft absolutely, positively, utterly, indubitably must implement any new SDK changes in such a way that doesn't alienate developers.

If Microsoft can manage that, and if the Windows Blue rumors prove true, a ubiquitous cross-platform SDK combined with yearly OS releases could just be the shot in the arm Microsoft needs to finally gain a foothold in the vaunted mobile market.

If the rumors are true, however, it's also another sign that Microsoft won't be turning away from the divisive modern UI, no matter how much desktop enthusiasts bemoan the finger-focused interface. Deepened ties between Windows 8 and Windows Phone no doubt rely on Live Tiles being universal.
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16 Dec 2012   #70

Windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

Well be prepared for a peugeot or nike ad every 10 clicks!
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