Windows 7: Intel 'preparing' to put an end to user-replaceable CPUs

logicearth · 27 Nov 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by FuturDreamz

How hard would it be for a third party "CPU card" specification to be created? Kind of like how GPUs are placed onto cards by OEMs.

You mean like some of the old Pentiums: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:I...III_Katmai.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single...tact_Cartridge

bigmck · 27 Nov 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost

No, it won't cut out the mobo manufacturers. They will still make and sell products, just with the CPU built-in. That's already been done in the mini-ITX segment and no one has complained about it. It only seems natural to expand it to the entire spectrum. You know there will be levels as well...from the cheap budget build to the high-end lines.

I don't think Intel could legally start making mobo and cut out the mobo makers. This is the same reason as auto makers are not allowed to make tires.

DeaconFrost · 27 Nov 2012

Intel does make their own motherboards, and has done so for years. I often use them in builds because they just plain work. I'd have no problem with them building cpu+mobo combos, as long as they allowed other brands to use their processors in their own mobos....which is good for the industry and the consumer.

FuturDreamz · 27 Nov 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by bigmck

Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost

No, it won't cut out the mobo manufacturers. They will still make and sell products, just with the CPU built-in. That's already been done in the mini-ITX segment and no one has complained about it. It only seems natural to expand it to the entire spectrum. You know there will be levels as well...from the cheap budget build to the high-end lines.

I don't think Intel could legally start making mobo and cut out the mobo makers. This is the same reason as auto makers are not allowed to make tires.

I don't think it would be possible. That means that Intel would be committing itself to making motherboards for even laptops, let alone every single needed configuration, no matter how obscure

Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth

Quote: Originally Posted by FuturDreamz

How hard would it be for a third party "CPU card" specification to be created? Kind of like how GPUs are placed onto cards by OEMs.

You mean like some of the old Pentiums: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:I...III_Katmai.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single...tact_Cartridge

that's the one. It would be interesting as to how it's implemented, considering it would need over a thousand pins.

bigmck · 27 Nov 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by FuturDreamz

Quote: Originally Posted by bigmck

Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost

No, it won't cut out the mobo manufacturers. They will still make and sell products, just with the CPU built-in. That's already been done in the mini-ITX segment and no one has complained about it. It only seems natural to expand it to the entire spectrum. You know there will be levels as well...from the cheap budget build to the high-end lines.

I don't think Intel could legally start making mobo and cut out the mobo makers. This is the same reason as auto makers are not allowed to make tires.

I don't think it would be possible. That means that Intel would be committing itself to making motherboards for even laptops, let alone every single needed configuration, no matter how obscure

Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth

Quote: Originally Posted by FuturDreamz

How hard would it be for a third party "CPU card" specification to be created? Kind of like how GPUs are placed onto cards by OEMs.

You mean like some of the old Pentiums: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:I...III_Katmai.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single...tact_Cartridge

that's the one. It would be interesting as to how it's implemented, considering it would need over a thousand pins.

Then we could also bring back the Hard Cards. I have an idea, we could have motherboards with nothing but slots on it and everything could be on a card.

Layback Bear · 27 Nov 2012

I do and have use Intel cpu's and motherboards. They are quality. I still like to choose. When you look at my specs you will see I chose many different brands for different hardware. That is part of building your own computer. The research and homework before you ever spend a dime on any hardware. I do think we will see the time when you will only be able to buy as a unit. Motherboard, cpu with great built in video and hardwired ram. That will be ashame.

DeaconFrost · 28 Nov 2012

There will still be choices...just less separate components to choose from. It's been that way in the Mini-ITX world (with the Atom processors) for a while. You had choices in boards and procs....but they came together. You just had to pick the specific combo you wanted.

strollin · 28 Nov 2012

Motherboard mfrs buy chipsets from Intel that get built into their motherboards so I don't see an issue. When a mfr purchases the chipset from Intel, it will now include the processor as well.

The trend for years has been to pack more capability into the motherboard which is why we now have many mobos with video, audio, ethernet, USB 2 & 3, etc... built-in whereas in the past these would have been added via discreet cards.

Brink · 28 Nov 2012

Quote:

Yesterday, a report emerged claiming that Intel is planning to release its upcoming 14-nanometer Broadwell architecture processors as a ball grid array (BGA) rather than an land grid array (LGA) package.

This would have several widespread implications, including bringing to an end to processor (CPU) upgrades.

Traditionally, the processors in desktop systems are fitted into a socket on the motherboard that allows them to be removed and replaced, while systems such as notebooks and tablets have the CPU soldered onto the motherboard.

Read more at source:
Intel 'preparing' to put an end to user-replaceable CPUs | ZDNet

Layback Bear · 28 Nov 2012

When I built my P6X58D-E board I had about 6 choices of intel cpu's. i7-920 to i7-X995. I really can't see Asus building that many motherboards with that many different cpu's hardwired. Just waiting for some one to buy them. Every motherboard cpu combination would have to be special ordered if one chose a non OEM combination. The price and time would be high and long. If my thoughts are true the choices would be very limited.

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