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I still don't see this as being too much of a problem. the only reason I upgraded m CPU is because I skimped out the first time around. When I upgrade again I intend to get a new motherboard with a 7-series chipset.
I still don't see this as being too much of a problem. the only reason I upgraded m CPU is because I skimped out the first time around. When I upgrade again I intend to get a new motherboard with a 7-series chipset.
In another thread, I put the options at 5. There would be two current chipsets, like H61 and P67. Then you'd have three processors, for example, the i3, i5, and i7. For simplification, I'd leave off the high end proc on the budget chipset, so that gives you 5 combinations:
H61-i3
H61-i5
P67-i3
P67-i5
P67-i7
That should be more than enough to fit into any need and budget. Now, the other manufacturers will take these combos and decide on how to offer and how many options, based on form factor of the mobo, SLI or not, RAID or not, 2 or 4 memory slots, networking options, etc.
Again, it's just the cpu and chipset that would be married...nothing more. If it seems like this would be limiting, you aren't considering the big picture.
Whatever they decide to do one thing is sure - there would be enough powerful CPUs for every task. Even with super limited choice.
I see this as a huge wild card for AMD and that would be great. Intel will gain in new area's but lose out on others which I hope AMD will want to jump in on again. Otherwise the aftermarket upgrades will be much less diverse and not as much fun to source like we do now! Ever since building my first rig I vowed never again to go back to the store bought rigs !
Isn't this the "Extrapolation Fallacy"?
Overall parts should be cheaper, if there weren't so many different choices.
Exactly.
Agreed.
I have stated something similar to this with regard to software piracy.
If people couldn't pirate software (e.g. Office) the publisher could charge any price they wanted and people would have to pay it (assuming there were no alternatives).
It also applies to backwards compatibility of software.
The computer "world" would look completely different, if all software had to be replaced with each new OS or CPU.
If you can't choose the hardware components you want (or can afford) you have to pay the price that a manufacturer demands for their all-in-one product.
OTOH, maybe it would improve the reliability/stability of the hardware
I think that too many options raises the price, as all of the options have to be produced and stocked.
For example, it's not practical to make 1 million different CPUs.
Of course the problem is, how many options are too many?
I learned something from Clubic.com (French technology, internet & professional news) and let me quote the original content (then, I'll translate) :
Intel Broadwell, la fin du LGA et la fin du PC traditionnel ? (mj)Mise à jour le 30/11/2012 à 12 h 10
Un représentant d'Intel France nous a contacté pour réagir à cet article : « Intel reste résolu à soutenir un marché du PC constitué de multiples segments, dont le traditionnel PC de bureau. Nous continuerons à innover sur chacun de ces marchés. »
Translation :
Update (11/30/2012, 12h10pm)
An Intel France spokeperson contacted us to react to this article : "Intel stays resolved to support a PC market consisted of multiple segments, of which the traditional desktop PC. We will continue to innovate on each of those markets."
Take that as you will guys :)
I would agree with that, Broadwell is probably a Tablet and some Laptop (like Ultabooks) CPU, and maybe starting into the smart phone arena. These are mostly soldered CPU scenarios.
They need a major release to start catching up for those segments of the market, or get left behind (further than they are now).
Doesn't make sense to abandon any part of the market these days. I believe the trend is and will be going to the smart phone/tablet/ultabook crowd, use it and then toss it for a new one.
The PC builders will start seeing lower volumes of selection and unfortunately higher prices.
It would seem unlikely that Intel would move to stifle the enthusiast/modder market and I can't explain why the couple of articles I've viewed read like Intel is doing just that, but maybe just like our discussion here the articles are a knee jerk reaction from industry insiders.....but why would they be doing this.....just for follies?