| Windows 7: Are SSDs the new RAM for boosting system performance? |
29 Nov 2012
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#1 | | 64-bit Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 & Windows 8 Enterprise Texas |
Are SSDs the new RAM for boosting system performance? Quote: RAM was once the king of the system performance boost. Now, there's a new kid in town that's usurping the throne: SSDs.
SSDs are the new performance panacea. But, when SSDs first hit the scene a few years ago, we hated them. They were small--too small to be useful and too slow for anything but Netbooks. Technology took hold and now SSDs are our new heroes. They are the new RAM. Still a little pricey for widespread consumer use; servers, high-end laptops and ultrabooks come equipped with them. And, they're fast. They're cool. Sure, they're cool in the vernacular sense of the word but they're also cool in the Fahrenheit/Celsius sense too. No moving parts means cooler temps and cooler laps under them. My favorite thing to say about SSDs is that, "They toil not and neither do they spin."
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29 Nov 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 bit UK Warwickshire |
I remember paying at least £80 for 2GB of Ram many years ago, you can get a nice 128gb SSD for that now.
I certainly always recommend SSD's to people as a source of speeding their PC's up. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Paulpicks Special Edition OS Windows 7 Professional 64 bit CPU i7 3770K @ 4.6ghz Motherboard Asus Z77 Sabertooth Memory 16GB G.Skill Trident X DDR3 2400Mhz 10-12-12-30 1t Graphics Card Sapphire Vapor-X HD7970 GHZ Edition Sound Card Xear 3d C Media PCI Monitor(s) Displays 27" Hanns-G HL272 LED Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Cyborg V5 Mouse Coolermaster Storm Inferno PSU Antec Truepower New 750 Case Antec 1100 Cooling Antec Kuhler 920 Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 4 128gb (OS), Crucial M4 64gb (Origin), Corsair F60 (Steam). Internet Speed 76 meg down, 16 meg up Browser Chrome Other Info My constant upgrades get me into a lot of trouble with her indoors, its a battle but the build must go on! |
29 Nov 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x86 Service Pack 1 - Linux Mint Mate 14 x64 East Midlands |
SSD's are the better option for increasing performance, although when you want a cheap and easy performance boost, then adding RAM could still be the option which consumers choose. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion dm1 Notebook PC OS Windows 7 Home Premium x86 Service Pack 1 - Linux Mint Mate 14 x64 CPU AMD E-450 APU (64-Bit) @ 1.65GHz Dual-Core Motherboard HP 3387 36.0A (Socket FT1) Memory 4GB DDR3 @ 676MHz Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 6320 Graphics Sound Card Beats Audio - IDT High Definition Audio CODEC Monitor(s) Displays LCD HP Monitor Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 @ 60Hz Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Synaptics TouchPad V 7.5/Logitech USB Wireless PSU Microsoft Composite Battery - ACPI Case HP Cooling HP Cool Sense Hard Drives 500GB - SATA Hitachi HTS547550A9E384 Internet Speed 24.0 Mbps Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Opera 12.15; Firefox 21 Other Info NIC - Broadcom 4313GN 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter
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29 Nov 2012
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#4 | | |
Unless you have less then 4GBs of RAM adding more won't really help. Thus you have to look at other places to increase performance. SSDs are the next logical step. My new computer is going to come with 16 GB of Quad-channel memory, while enough for my intended purpose gaming, adding more will not improve performance for most of my application except running VMs. Thus, I'm throwing a small 256 GB SSD into this computer...or I haven't fully decided yet but I have been offered 512 GB SSD + 1 TB storage drive for an extra $400 (plus the cost of the 256 SSD, single 512 SSD is an extra $300). But we will see. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware Aurora ALX R4 OS Windows 7 x64 (SP1) CPU Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz, Turbo 4GHz) Motherboard Alienware Aurora-R4 x79 Memory 4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz) Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce GTX 690 (Stock) Sound Card RealTek Integrated Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U3011 Screen Resolution 2560x1600 PSU 875W Some Dell PSU <.< Hard Drives Samsung P830 256 GB, WD Raptor 150GB, 2x 1TB HDDs Other Info Dell Inspiron Mini 10v (Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz; 1GB; Windows 7 Ultimate) |
29 Nov 2012
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#5 | | |
How reliable are SSD drives? Horror stories of corrupted files lost - or is that just a USB device thing? On my part I've also been able to recover lost and raw partoons from my flash drive but not without some damaged goods. Imagination, heavy disk use maybe?
I have also wondered what is seek time like on SSD. I know USB is not the swiftest tool in the shed but what time cost savings could you expect from say - a comparable 7200 rpm?
And I hear you say no need to defrag - ahh what's this? I would like one to get rid of all the heat excess - when will a decent size (80+ GB works for me) at a decent price be on market? | My System Specs | | |
30 Nov 2012
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#7 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |
Hi there
in theory if the SSD is fast enough then you wouldn't need RAM at all -- apart from a small amount of RAM in the BIOS to bootstrap the OS and initialize the SSD driver to load the OS on to and prepare the user logon screen.
The MOBOS would have to be changed but gone would be the days of buying extra RAM -- a fast 256 GB SSD should be plenty for the next generation of PC's.
It probably will be a race between memory chip makers and SSD designers who can make the cheapest, fastest devices.
Cheers
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30 Nov 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Los Angeles, CA, USA |
Besides access speeds, of which RAM still holds a clear advantage over other data storage mediums, RAM also holds the advantage of having unlimited write cycles which is essential in "scratch paper"-esque data storage mediums like RAM where data is constantly being written and rewritten. While we've always used swap files/virtual memory on our HDDs (which also have unlimited write cycles) to complement RAM, I'm not sure if swap files/virtual memory would be healthy for SSDs; at the very least they would be relatively short-lived. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number N/A (custom-built) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 2700K @ 3.5GHz (TurboBoost disabled) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4x4GB) Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz @ 1333MHz Graphics Card Nvidia EVGA GeForce 560 Ti 448 Cores Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio (motherboard integrated) Monitor(s) Displays NEC Multisync EX231W Screen Resolution 1920x1080 @ 60Hz via DVI-D Keyboard Steelseries 6Gv2 Mouse Steelseries Sensei RAW Glossy, Logitech M500 PSU Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850 Case Antec 300 Cooling Air-cooling Hard Drives 2x Western Digital 1TB SATA3 Caviar Black Internal HDD // 1x WD 500GB USB 3.0 "My Passport Essential" External HDD // 1x WD 1TB USB 3.0 "My Passport Essential" External HDD // 2x WD 2TB USB 3.0 "My Passport Essential" External HDD Internet Speed DSL Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Mozilla Firefox, Opera, Chromium, IE9 |
30 Nov 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Southern California |
I think the balance of power between the two is the key, but it sounds like the balance has swung to the SSD and with capacities upping with street prices falling it's a great and natural upgrade. The SSD is in my opinion the greatest singular upgrade one can make to their modern system currently. I started with a Crucial 64gb and (5) SSD's later I'm over the moon with the latest 256gb Samsung 830 in my rig. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck, ask me about rig #2 ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, still love my FX 8120 Motherboard MSI P67A-GD80 b3 Memory 16 gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 9-9-9-27 @ 2000 Graphics Card XFX Radeon 7870 Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case CoolerMaster Storm Styker Cooling 6 case fans 140mm & 120mm, Thermaltake h2o extreme Hard Drives Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
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07 Dec 2012
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#10 | | |
Microsoft needs to rethink the disk/file/path structure. Perhaps move the MyDocuments/MyPicture/MyMusic/Downloads etc to D drive along with optional maybe for program installs to manually choose C drive installs or not. Make the system a fast boot at least... Then most standard users can get by with a small say 64 or maybe 32gb ssd c: drive and a larger d: spinning drive with ample room to have a system image for when that ssd craps out. | My System Specs | | Are SSDs the new RAM for boosting system performance? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:02 AM. | |