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Windows 7: Win 7 still tops
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04 Dec 2012
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Windows 7 Home Premium x86 Service Pack 1 - Linux Mint Mate 14 x64 4,506 posts Milton Keynes |
Windows Defender is Windows 8 version of Microsoft Security Essentials, since Windows 8 doesn't support MSE for some reason  | My System Specs |
| Computer type Laptop
System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion dm1 Notebook PC
OS Windows 7 Home Premium x86 Service Pack 1 - Linux Mint Mate 14 x64
CPU AMD E-450 APU (64-Bit) @ 1.65GHz Dual-Core
Motherboard HP 3387 36.0A (Socket FT1)
Memory 4GB DDR3 @ 676MHz
Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 6320 Graphics
Sound Card Beats Audio - IDT High Definition Audio CODEC
Monitor(s) Displays LCD HP Monitor
Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 @ 60Hz
Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse Synaptics TouchPad V 7.5/Logitech USB Wireless
PSU Microsoft Composite Battery - ACPI
Case HP
Cooling HP Cool Sense
Hard Drives 500GB - SATA Hitachi HTS547550A9E384
Internet Speed 24.0 Mbps
Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser Opera 12.15; Firefox 21
Other Info NIC - Broadcom 4313GN 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter
Belkin Black Laptop Cooling Stand
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04 Dec 2012
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7 x64 | 7 x64 552 posts Syracuse NY, USA |
Well I bought myself an early x-mas present, a new Asus laptop to replace the aging d-820.
Why now? Well it has an i5, 8 gigs ram, 500 gig drive, usb 3.0, and the #1 reason .. drum roll please ..
it did Not have Windows 8. | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self - Build | Asus K53e Laptop
OS 7 x64 | 7 x64
CPU AMD 64x2 5400 2.8 | i5 Sandy Bridge
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H 3.3 | K53e
Memory 4 gigs GSkill ddr2 800 | 8 gigs Adata ddr3 1600
Graphics Card xFx HD5670 1 gig ddr5 | Intel HD 3000
Sound Card Realtek HD OnBoard Audio
Monitor(s) Displays 19" Samsung 18" NEC & 37" Toshiba | 15.6
Keyboard Rosewill RK-800G PS/2 Gaming Keyboard | Asus Chiclet
Mouse Logitec MX518 | MS w/side buttons
PSU hec 485w dual rail | 65w
Case CoolMaster Centurion 534+
Cooling Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120mm Core Contact Freezer
Hard Drives 120 OCZ Vertex II ssd | 750 Caviar Black 7200 sata | 500 spinpoint
Internet Speed RoadRunner
Other Info Logitec x540 5.1 audio
Windows 7 Speech Recognition
Modified Air-flow / Cooling system
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05 Dec 2012
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 315 posts Los Angeles, CA, USA |
Quote: Originally Posted by x BlueRobot  Windows Defender is Windows 8 version of Microsoft Security Essentials, since Windows 8 doesn't support MSE for some reason That's because Windows Defender in Windows 8 is MSE in a nutshell, it just has a different name. ┐(￣ー￣)┌ | | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number N/A (custom-built)
OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU Intel Core i7 2700K @ 3.5GHz (TurboBoost disabled)
Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3
Memory 16GB (4x4GB) Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz @ 1333MHz
Graphics Card Nvidia EVGA GeForce 560 Ti 448 Cores
Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio (motherboard integrated)
Monitor(s) Displays NEC Multisync EX231W
Screen Resolution 1920x1080 @ 60Hz via DVI-D
Keyboard Steelseries 6Gv2
Mouse Steelseries Sensei RAW Glossy, Logitech M500
PSU Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850
Case Antec 300
Cooling Air-cooling
Hard Drives 2x Western Digital 1TB SATA3 Caviar Black Internal HDD // 1x WD 500GB USB 3.0 "My Passport Essential" External HDD // 1x WD 1TB USB 3.0 "My Passport Essential" External HDD // 2x WD 2TB USB 3.0 "My Passport Essential" External HDD
Internet Speed DSL
Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser Mozilla Firefox, Opera, Chromium, IE9
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14 Dec 2012
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Win7 x 6 PC's 36,547 posts California, Florida, Boston |
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14 Dec 2012
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Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 4,012 posts Australia |
Quote: Originally Posted by LittleJay
Quote: Originally Posted by x BlueRobot Don't you have to use a third-party program in order to achieve that configuration? Yes. It is a tiny program that imports the Windows 7 start menu from a Windows 7 installation DVD. After that, its only function is to allow you to switch between the 7 and 8 desktops. With the added built in security of Windows Defender there is no need to install a third party AV unless you want to. Also, the upgrade is for Windows 8 Pro, so I now have access to some features than my Windows 7 Home Edition doesn't. So for me it is worth it. Right now, 8 works and pretty much looks the same as 7 and I haven't had a single issue with it. I still have another copy of Windows 7 installed on another SSD in my PC to fall back on if I do start having problems with 8. That's Interesting. I haven't tried W8 but are you are saying that a Windows 7 installation disk will allow you to switch between Windows 7 and W8 desktop (inc start orb etc)?
Are there any licensing issues?
If this is all true then surley there should be a simple configuration switch in W8??? | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800)
OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2
CPU Intel i7 2600k
Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB
Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+)
Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350
Screen Resolution 1920x1080
Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless)
Mouse Logitech MK520
PSU Seasonic M12II 520W
Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60
Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+
Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS +
Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps
Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC)
Browser FireFox
Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1
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14 Dec 2012
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Win7 x 6 PC's 36,547 posts California, Florida, Boston |
It grafts Windows 7 explorer parts that contain the Start menu onto Win8 seamlessly. It performs exactly like Windows 7 Start menu because it is. At the same time it toggles off Metro so it isn't even loaded into RAM. You can switch back and forth via Log In. The link is in my previous post. | | My System Specs | | |
14 Dec 2012
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Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 4,012 posts Australia |
Missed it Greg.
So are you saying that with W8 which now is supplied with most OEM PCs it is easy to get the Windows 7 capabilities including look and feel? | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800)
OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2
CPU Intel i7 2600k
Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB
Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+)
Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350
Screen Resolution 1920x1080
Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless)
Mouse Logitech MK520
PSU Seasonic M12II 520W
Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60
Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+
Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS +
Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps
Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC)
Browser FireFox
Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1
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14 Dec 2012
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Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP 1 2,685 posts The North Star state |
Just checked out your link Greg and that is indeed the program I use and it works like a charm. I have access to all the features of Windows 8 Pro in a Windows 7 type environment. I also installed MS games from my Windows 7 DVD as well, because I like to play Spider Solitaire, Solitaire and Hearts occasionally. | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Customized build from CyberPower
OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP 1
CPU Intel i5 2500k
Motherboard Asus P8P67 Deluxe
Memory 8 gigabytes Corsair PC3-12800 DDR3
Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 460 superclocked
Sound Card Integrated
Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic 23" LCD
Screen Resolution 1980 x 1080
Keyboard Logitech USB
Mouse Microsoft 3 button
PSU Coolermaster 1000 watt modular
Case Coolermaster HAF X full tower
Cooling Coolermaster Hyper 212 plus
Hard Drives 120 Gb Samsung 840 Pro SSD
120 Gb Kingston Hyper X SSD
1 Tb WD Caviar Black HDD
Internet Speed download 1.5 Mb/sec upload 300Kb/sec
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14 Dec 2012
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Win7 x 6 PC's 36,547 posts California, Florida, Boston |
It loads the identical Windows 7 Start Menu but still maintains 8 improvements in the Explorer windows, graph during copying functions, etc.
Because it doesn't load Metro into RAM it seems to gain back a little speed but to me it is not enough to use it instead of Windows 7. In fact the first time I visited my 8 partition in weeks is to verify this info for you.
Edit: Oh, great. I know I'm still in Win8 when I click on a screenshot here to read it and it opens to the size of a postage stamp.
Last edited by gregrocker; 15 Dec 2012 at 12:02 AM..
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14 Dec 2012
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Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP 1 2,685 posts The North Star state |
Quote: Edit: Oh, great. I know I'm still in Win8 when I click on a screenshot here to read it and it opens to the size of a postage stamp using one of the crApps. Interesting, because I have clicked on numerous screenshots and never had one open to the size of postage stamp. | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Customized build from CyberPower
OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP 1
CPU Intel i5 2500k
Motherboard Asus P8P67 Deluxe
Memory 8 gigabytes Corsair PC3-12800 DDR3
Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 460 superclocked
Sound Card Integrated
Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic 23" LCD
Screen Resolution 1980 x 1080
Keyboard Logitech USB
Mouse Microsoft 3 button
PSU Coolermaster 1000 watt modular
Case Coolermaster HAF X full tower
Cooling Coolermaster Hyper 212 plus
Hard Drives 120 Gb Samsung 840 Pro SSD
120 Gb Kingston Hyper X SSD
1 Tb WD Caviar Black HDD
Internet Speed download 1.5 Mb/sec upload 300Kb/sec
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