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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

07 May 2013   #991
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

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Windows Product Manager Ian Moulster is exhibiting absolute arrogance, and still just doesn't get it. He's still making stupid excuses for W8's flop.
To him, it's not M$'s fault at all, it's the fault of those ignorant consumers who just don't know enough to do what M$ wants them to do.
I've got news for Moulster, he's badly mistaken if he thinks insulting the intelligence of M$'s consumers is the way to coerce them into buying the garbage he's pushing.

The really tragic and silly thing about the Windows 8 "metro" debacle is that with only TWO small changes that would have been ZERO problem to implement would have been to allow a default boot to desktop at every start up, and return the start menu. Problem solved.

Steve Ballmer's head should roll for this.

What I can't understand is why Paul Allen, Bill Gates, the BoD and the shareholders haven't pushed to correct this very simple problem. If you skip Metro, Windows 8 is even better than Windows 7 when it comes to functionality and speed.
Hi there
I Trade Ms Options on the Markets quite regularly -- the stock touched its 52 week yesterday unlike "The Fruit Company" -- so why should I get involved -- and most stock holders probably don't even KNOW what a computer is far less anything about Windows. !!

The stock holders don't care if Ms started manufacturing GARDENING products for all they care so long as the Stock price improves. Sad but True --there it is.

Graph enc

Cheers
jimbo




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07 May 2013   #992
Iforgot

Win7 64
 
 

Stockholders wouldn't care about indiscretions of the company or it's personnel.
Unless it became a liability as the share prices would go down...
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07 May 2013   #993
gregrocker

 

Yes Windows 7 sales are pulling them through. Maybe they'll take notice its the best OS ever and deserves a worthy successor years from now.
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07 May 2013   #994
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there
Windows 7 isn't the issue here -- as a Desktop OS nobody is complaining --unless you had one of those rather poor Windows 7 phones --the new W8 phones really are streets ahead - whatever one thinks of the merits of W7 / W8 ad Desktop OS'es.

Ms doesn't actually depend any more on Windows as to its survival -- it won't make the same mistake like other companies such as AGFA / ILFORD / KODAK who really couldn't understand Digital Photography was here to stay. - In fact Kodak were really stupid as they were one of the FIRST companies to embrace Digital photography -- but then it all went pear shaped for them.

Cheers
jimbo
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07 May 2013   #995
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

I bought the cheap W8 upgrade and haven't bothered with it. I have 2 W7s on the shelf and they will be used first. If there was an agreed linux standard supported by the big 3rd party software houses then goodbye MS.
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07 May 2013   #996
PaulGo

Windows 10 (64 bit)
 
 

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Microsoft Prepares U-Turn on Windows 8

...Analysts warned that changing course would be a significant admission of failure for Steve Ballmer, chief executive, who called the October launch of Windows 8 a "bet-the-company" moment as Microsoft sought to respond to the success of Apple's iPad.


...Richard Doherty, analyst at tech research firm Envisioneering, said: "This is like New Coke, going on for seven months – only Coke listened better." Coca-Cola dropped its New Coke formula in response to a consumer backlash less than three months after launch.
Microsoft Prepares U-Turn on Windows 8
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07 May 2013   #997
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Yes Windows 7 sales are pulling them through. Maybe they'll take notice its the best OS ever and deserves a worthy successor years from now.
I think that would be the scope of things for the next "major" desktop release wouldn't set for years later but for the very next and not being totally focused on promoting tablets! When you hear professionals out in the field calling 8 a crap OS and advising people to revert back to Vista or 7 to run their softwares you know MS got too far offtrack from what does work for the desktop platform!

As far as MS solely surviving on Windows alone? Not happening! With their resources they could get away with an 8 flop for the intent of promoting Surface as I was saying before having everything look the same at the cost of the desktop. Surface is their new pet project while their revenues come in from the corporate side with their office wares.

It's easy to see where 7 has been the best out since it works for the desktop platform which it was designed for. Win 8 on the other hand is the latest MS ambition of grabbing at the mobile market and is now coming out with a smaller then Surface tablet to compete. Small Windows tablets on the way to satisfy no existing market | ZDNet

MS isn't going to worry too much either way about restoring the Start menu or as the 8.1 blogs suggest some form of start button being returned to please the desktop. They want to flex their muscles into the other market and make a big noise!
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07 May 2013   #998
gregrocker

 

"...like combining a toaster and a fridge – something that, while technically possible, was "probably not going to be pleasing to the user".

The fixes being discussed are not even close to what's needed.

They need to put Win7 back on all non-touchscreen PC's in the stores, or they will not sell.

Either that or SP the Start button back in but then you have Win7 SP2.

They need to trap you on that Metro screen to peddle the crApps. That's their 8 business model, code-named New Coke.

Just release 8 on touchscreens and Win7 on PC's where they belong. Slip 8 Explorer improvements into Win7 SP2 and you have a whole lot of happy customers.
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07 May 2013   #999
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

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"...like combining a toaster and a fridge – something that, while technically possible, was "probably not going to be pleasing to the user".
Then there is something called reverse cycle air conditioning. I still think MS could have had their cake and eat it too with W8. Maybe it will be Windows 9.
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07 May 2013   #1000
gregrocker

 

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"...like combining a toaster and a fridge – something that, while technically possible, was "probably not going to be pleasing to the user".
Then there is something called reverse cycle air conditioning. I still think MS could have had their cake and eat it too with W8. Maybe it will be Windows 9.
What's ironic is 8 has an advantage over Ipad with Live Tiles. They should have sold that, not putting the toaster in a refrigerator which freaked out their desktop user base.
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