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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

13 May 2013   #1021
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

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Here is an idea
Virgin Linux
are you listening Richard Branson. Everything you touch seems to turn to gold. He currently has ~400 operations as I understand. He blasted his way successfully into the Australian aviation market when everyone else failed.
If he could make it compatible with M$ programs, I would be all over it like stink on skunk! No rush; I'll give him to January, 2020.


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14 May 2013   #1022
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Here is an idea
Virgin Linux
are you listening Richard Branson. Everything you touch seems to turn to gold. He currently has ~400 operations as I understand. He blasted his way successfully into the Australian aviation market when everyone else failed.
If he could make it compatible with M$ programs, I would be all over it like stink on skunk! No rush; I'll give him to January, 2020.
Hi there
Be careful what you wish for -- I can quote TWO big businesses where "The boy didn't come good" -- Virgin Trains in the UK and the Virgin Media ISP / Broadband. People seem to have huge issues with both these services -- just recently when I had arrived from overseas at Manchester airport I had to go to London by train - so guess what I saw at Manchester Piccadilly main train station on the Virgin Trains Intercity section. It was a holiday weekend so of course many more people were travelling than usual so this is what we got :

"Due to Improvements your service will be drastically reduced" -- Thanks Richard -- Standing room only on a 320 KM train trip which took nearly 4 hrs instead of just over two with no bar / refreshment services either.

Cheers
jimbo
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14 May 2013   #1023
PaulGo

Windows 10 (64 bit)
 
 

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Microsoft could make one big move to salvage Windows 8. Whether it will have the courage to do it remains a question

...While it's rumored that the Blue update will reinstate the much-missed Start menu and allow users to boot into the Desktop mode, it's highly unlikely Microsoft will do the one thing that would best fix Windows 8: separate the desktop and tablet versions. That would require a surgery equivalent of separating conjoined twins, but it would have a powerful effect on both Microsoft's upstart tablet business and its traditional desktop base.
The one thing that could save Windows 8 | Microsoft - CNET News
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14 May 2013   #1024
gregrocker

 

Finally the verdict of business (53% of the market) gets aired where all can read it. I've been saying this for months. After a huge scare campaign in which they were threatened with BIOS infections if they didn't rush into Win8 Secure Boot, business replied almost unanimously by going with Win7 in the final migration from XP.

This when added to the consumer slump in PC sales, horrible feedback for Win8 from consumers, long return lines at Best Buy from users who never asked for a phone app on their new PC, means the handwriting is on the wall. Either read it or suffer ignominy worse than Vista - which itself was saved by Win7 advancements. Win7 will also save the day here, if they will let it.

First they need to finally recognize what they accomplished with Win7 - a perfect desktop experience - and celebrate it rather than try to smother it in its crib. Put it back on new PC's and let them sell again. Reintroduce Win8 for touchscreens - features like Live Tiles which are a competitive advantage vs. Ipad.
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14 May 2013   #1025
HammerHead

win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1
 
 
Is There Something Here?

Is there something here for MS to learn? Public relations or the lack thereof can be damning.

The Pentium Chip Story: A Learning Experience by Vince Emery
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14 May 2013   #1026
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

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"Windows 8 on the desktop will not take off until the Metro 'toy' interface becomes an option as provided by the superb 'Classic Shell' software (or gets ditched altogether). Corporates [sic] do not want to pay the MASSIVE bill for retraining users to use something, which basically is rubbish."
It's not getting any better for MS.

From Paulgo's link

The one thing that could save Windows 8 | Microsoft - CNET News
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14 May 2013   #1027
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

If Branson can send Joe Blow into sub orbit he could form Virgin Linux and I bet the big players would come on board.
Don't view this as some anti MS comment - I like W7 and provide advice like the rest of us for free. There is just an obvious business opportunity here and I just also like business "stuff" as well.
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14 May 2013   #1028
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Quote:
"Windows 8 on the desktop will not take off until the Metro 'toy' interface becomes an option as provided by the superb 'Classic Shell' software (or gets ditched altogether). Corporates [sic] do not want to pay the MASSIVE bill for retraining users to use something, which basically is rubbish."
It's not getting any better for MS.

From Paulgo's link

The one thing that could save Windows 8 | Microsoft - CNET News
A slippery slope headed downhill is how to look at how things are going! When you take a look at MS trends of getting away from Fat to NTFS especially after ME flopped and XP was rushed out to take it's place loaded with bugs and limitations until all three SPs were out. Then you take the initial bad rep for Vista since MS made another big goober of "understating" the actual minimum system requirements for the larger OS which was the main problem for the otherwise more secure and definitely more stable then XP version.

What does all that sum up? Win 7 solves many a problem! The first "works out of the box" OS MS comes out with becomes an instant success story with "everyone" wanting it! Did MS learn from the 7 success story? Most other companies would want to follow up on that and build it even better to keep the pace going! MS looked the other way however and simply got too busy pushing Surface and now even smaller tablets to compete with the Fruit long time rivel as well as the recently new Google-litis Androidisms.

If some song writer came along he or she would probably work up some interesting lyrics about MS without it being a difficult task! "Flopppp Cityyyy... oh dear M$$$$ you have now reached Flop Cityyyyy being rejected by you peers! daa daaa dat taaaa Flop City...."
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14 May 2013   #1029
Indianatone

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and numerous virtual machines
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Here is an idea
Virgin Linux
are you listening Richard Branson. Everything you touch seems to turn to gold. He currently has ~400 operations as I understand. He blasted his way successfully into the Australian aviation market when everyone else failed.
If he could make it compatible with M$ programs, I would be all over it like stink on skunk! No rush; I'll give him to January, 2020.
Hi there
Be careful what you wish for -- I can quote TWO big businesses where "The boy didn't come good" -- Virgin Trains in the UK and the Virgin Media ISP / Broadband. People seem to have huge issues with both these services -- just recently when I had arrived from overseas at Manchester airport I had to go to London by train - so guess what I saw at Manchester Piccadilly main train station on the Virgin Trains Intercity section. It was a holiday weekend so of course many more people were travelling than usual so this is what we got :

"Due to Improvements your service will be drastically reduced" -- Thanks Richard -- Standing room only on a 320 KM train trip which took nearly 4 hrs instead of just over two with no bar / refreshment services either.

Cheers
jimbo
The issue you had was not with the train service but caused by the tracks being repaired over a long holiday weekend when major engineering works are often scheduled. Worst time to travel by train as that is when the major work is done over a holiday.
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15 May 2013   #1030
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Corrupting Influence

Another related issue is software and websites adopting the awful W8-style graphics.

The latest Foxit Reader installs with W8-style graphics and the awful Ribbon layout by default.
More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8-fr-ribbon.jpg
At least there is a "Classic" theme.
More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8-fr-classic.jpg
Here's how you restore the "Classic" view.
More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8-fr-change-ui.jpg
There were a few angry people on ghacks.net.
Foxit Reader 6.0 introduces new Ribbon Toolbar -


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