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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

27 May 2013   #1081
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
I don't believe their will be a SP-2 for Windows 7.
Microsoft doesn't want to make Windows 7 better. They want us to get up off Windows 7 and buy Windows 8.
Microsoft makes no money offering a new SP for Windows 7. They make money selling Windows 8.
With Windows 7 they can make good money too - there are still half of the PC owners on standby with XP. And then they may have to yield to the pressures from the PC manufacturers that are not selling much with Windows 8. If they insist on their mal-advised strategy, they may bring the whole industry down - and what then.


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27 May 2013   #1082
gregrocker

 

They will make more money selling Win7. Business is migrating into Win7. Consumers want Win7 on their new PC's.

It is their only wildly successful product - a perfect OS with a perfect desktop experience - and shows no signs of age except that it needs SP2.

Until then you can make your own using Update 7 installation media - Windows 7 Help Forums saving at least an hour during installs.
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27 May 2013   #1083
Lone Browncoat

2000Pro,XP SP3 x86..W7 on next build
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Until then you can make your own using Update 7 installation media - Windows 7 Help Forums saving at least an hour during installs.
Read that, too much tinkering for me, my favourite is still 2000 Pro [no activation, integrated VL copy]
and with the modified NT5.1 kernels i was able to keep up when Mozilla and the rest went to VS2010+.
To maintain it was taking too much of my leisure time despite some smarter than me working their butts off
to keep 2000 alive and surrendered to XP, then got free W7U DVDs.

RyanVM.net Discussion Board :: View topic - Post-EOL unofficial updates for Windows 2000
Unofficial Service Pack 5 for MS Windows 2000
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27 May 2013   #1084
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Folks I understand that Windows 7 is a great system.
I understand that business is going from XP to Windows 7 and yet some are still undecided until they see what Microsoft is going to do.
I understand that a SP-2 would be great and do many good things. I understand all the other good if not great things about Windows 7. My understanding is the market place has already spoken and it wants Windows 7.
I just don't think who ever is running the dog and pony show at Microsoft understands and or will admit to.
I think their will have to be some changes in who sits in the board room at Microsoft before we see what I think me, you and millions of others want. I don't hate Microsoft. I want Microsoft to continue to be a great company. I just think Microsoft should look in the past at billions of customers that made them so big and ask themselves; what do those customers want. Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that Microsoft should not reach out to new markets at the same time. They are big and strong enough to do both.

Please be informed that I have been told I'm not using my brain so I could be completely wrong and probable am. Just my thoughts and are not intended to offend anybody in any way shape or form. Please inform me if my thoughts in this thread do offend anybody.
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27 May 2013   #1085
McRuff

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lone Browncoat View Post
Read that, too much tinkering for me, my favourite is still 2000 Pro [no activation, integrated VL copy]
and with the modified NT5.1 kernels i was able to keep up when Mozilla and the rest went to VS2010+.
To maintain it was taking too much of my leisure time despite some smarter than me working their butts off
to keep 2000 alive and surrendered to XP, then got free W7U DVDs.

RyanVM.net Discussion Board :: View topic - Post-EOL unofficial updates for Windows 2000
Unofficial Service Pack 5 for MS Windows 2000

Thanks for that Link, I had missed all that activity with Windows 2000, probably my favorite operating system from Microsoft. I may take it out of it's virtual machine where it currently resides and give it a run on an old computer.
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27 May 2013   #1086
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

You have to eventually surmise just what the intentions are with MS as far as what is driving it. With ME XP another buggy OS was rushed in to replace it's predecessor in a heartbeat. Likewise 7 was the big MS comeback following the bad rep Vista took! Now to see Windows 9 or whatever sell 2-3yrs. after 8 you need to push the floppy first then people will be far more anxious to dump 8 for 9 or ??? that comes next. It's obvious that Blue(birds) won't be singing a cheerful tune either.
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27 May 2013   #1087
gregrocker

 

Jack there's nothing you could say that would offend me or most anyone here. Those who do the grunt work here know that nobody has our back like you. I think once again you summarize things well.

It's a marketing model that is failing: revamping the desktop - which MS does best - to try to monetize apps like Apple does on Ipad, transition over to subscription service for all software. But for desktop users it is not intuitive and doesn't work, just spoils the desktop experience which is at it's best in Win7.

It might work well on touchscreens but the blowback is so bad from putting it on desktops that it isn't even getting a fair hearing for the competitive advantage of live tiles vs. Ipad's static icons.

I see no alternative to putting WIn7 back on PC's until there is a worthy successor, while marketing Win8 for touchscreens where it belongs and can compete.
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27 May 2013   #1088
PaulGo

Windows 10 (64 bit)
 
 

Microsoft is such a large company that the bureaucracy will never admit it made a mistake, they may change their short range goals but their long range goal is to reeducate (reprogram) the customer to its long range goal of maximizing the control (and profit) it makes on Windows. I wish they would open their eyes and realize that if they actually produced an OS the customers want they could regain their customers loyalty, increase sales and make customers realize their is a distinct difference between a tablet OS and a desktop OS. If Microsoft continues to offer a tablet OS for a desktop I feel many customers will ultimately say "why do I need a desktop?".

Microsoft only has to look here to see that many loyal supporters and users of Windows are disappointed with the Windows 8 UI.
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28 May 2013   #1089
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

If MS decides to from now on only produce Tablet suitable/capable versions desktop users simply won't be dumping their desktops and buy into tablets only but look at the alternatives for the desktop platform! MS would then be cutting it's own throat as far as customer loyalty as well as edging into the mobile market place since the bad rep for the bad desktop experience will flow downhill into the rep they get for all platforms! The "Ripple Effect" will be felt by the limited thinkers they seem to have!
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28 May 2013   #1090
Stephanie

Win 7 Pro x64, Win 10 Pro x64, Linux Light x86
 
 

I did try Windows 8 but I did not keep it, It may be great on a Tablet but I don't have one and wont be buying one
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