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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

03 Jun 2013   #1131
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Good video thanks whs. You got to give me some credit I did choose Windows 7. I have heard the SP-2 even made Visa better.


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03 Jun 2013   #1132
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Good video thanks whs. You got to give me some credit I did choose Windows 7. I have heard the SP-2 even made Visa better.
Right, Vista did better and better with age - like a good wine. I never had real problems at the beginning either and I was a Vista customer of the first hour (Febr. 1, 2007). There were a few minor glitches like with the router setup but with the help of Netgear I mastered that.

I think that Windows 7 would never have been possible without Vista as the predecessor. Some people even called Windows 7 the SP3 of Vista.
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03 Jun 2013   #1133
Juxxize

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi there
What exactly am I missing --and I'm a lowly Engineer so the hotshots at Ms who actually DESIGN and WRITE windows should be able to understand far better than me.

A DESKTOP OS is totally different in operation and conception from a MOBILE PHONE / TABLET OS -- so why on earth have Ms apparently given up on the desktop - desktops (probably in the form of laptops) aren't going away any time soon - there are 100,000's of scenarios where a tablet or phone isn't suitable.

It's just SO obvious that I really fail to understand what exactly Ms's problem is. Make the OS capable in of running in TWO user selectable modes. Can't be that difficult - after all people have added 3rd party stuff like Start 8 etc.

I have to surmise that it's really case of egos and politics.

Let's hope somebody starts teaching "Real world situations" to these guys.

Cheers
jimbo
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desktops (probably in the form of laptops) aren't going away any time soon - there are 100,000's of scenarios where a tablet or phone isn't suitable.
I love my smartphone and android tablet but will always need and want to use a PC for other stuff that tablets and wot-not aren't cut out for.
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03 Jun 2013   #1134
gregrocker

 

Advancements made in WIn7 are what saved Vista so that many don't' even remember what a mess it was at release.

With the Aero overhead and having most Services set to Auto like in XP it bogged down horribly on all but the newest hardware. Users flocked to the Black Viper to edit services to make it tolerable.

Win7 Product Team took a cue from this and working feverishly developed Fast Triggers that allowed all Services not needed at Startup to be set to Manual, which had not been done in XP for services that needed to be instant-on. This was all logged in the Win7 Developers Blog which fascinated and made me a beta junkie. These 7 advancements were also rushed into Vista SP1 and made it a decent OS, even more so as hardware specs improved.

But the real genius was and is Win7, the best OS ever until a worthy successor is developed that continues the perfect desktop experience that powers the world economy.
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03 Jun 2013   #1135
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
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I never used Vista because of all the bad reports by users.
Too many people went by the hearsy regarding Vista. But after SP1, Vista was a great system. My wife is still running with Vista on 2 laptops and loves it.

Watch this short video - you may find yourself in the crowd, LOL.

Project Mojave - Windows Vista Perception - YouTube
That's precisely the problem for the older version! Too many listened to hype while MS didn't help any initially by skimping out on what was actually needed for minimum system specs to allow OEMs to continue to slide by short changing on memory and cpu speeds back then. 512mb minimum? should have been 2gb! ---Having a cpu speed of 2.2ghz or faster would have also been a help for the then larger then XP version of Windows. It was found to be less buggy even before SP1 while SP2 turned into a solid OS. It replaced a bugged OS from Day #1 namely X(waste)P(ee) rushed out after ME flop sided. Vista was also much furher away from the Blue Screen Special XP had always been! "Crash Central"!
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03 Jun 2013   #1136
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
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I never used Vista because of all the bad reports by users.
Too many people went by the hearsy regarding Vista. But after SP1, Vista was a great system. My wife is still running with Vista on 2 laptops and loves it.

Watch this short video - you may find yourself in the crowd, LOL.

Project Mojave - Windows Vista Perception - YouTube
That's precisely the problem for the older version! Too many listened to hype while MS didn't help any initially by skimping out on what was actually needed for minimum system specs to allow OEMs to continue to slide by short changing on memory and cpu speeds back then. 512mb minimum? should have been 2gb! ---Having a cpu speed of 2.2ghz or faster would have also been a help for the then larger then XP version of Windows. It was found to be less buggy even before SP1 while SP2 turned into a solid OS. It replaced a bugged OS from Day #1 namely X(waste)P(ee) rushed out after ME flop sided. Vista was also much furher away from the Blue Screen Special XP had always been! "Crash Central"!
Strange. I never had problems with XP.
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04 Jun 2013   #1137
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
Strange. I never had problems with XP.
My issues with XP SP1 vanished as soon as I stopped using IE6 (2004 - 2006) and swapped to Firefox.
I didn't go to XP SP2 until 2007.
I went to XP SP3 in 2008.
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04 Jun 2013   #1138
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

SP 1 there was vital since the older version had to break the 137gb barrier the service pack addressed once drive capacities were on the increase. In fact XP was first looked at on a much smaller 13gb until getting a 120gb drive in back a decade ago! It was most notorious for system locks as well as the endless BSODs while Vista brought in an immediate desktop recovery crash control process as well as not running into all those Blue Screens! ---Once into Vista for a bit it was obviously time for XP to go back in 2007 other then it lingering on since the old version was still needed to run things that wouldn't run in any form on Vista. But in the long run 7 proved a champ once more when the 32bit 7 could run all those old XP apps without a blink! In fact even old AGP and Realtek XP drivers for onboard sound you wouldn't expect to work at all on the 32bit Vista work on the 32bit 7 showing MS made another smart move in backward compatibility over being struck each time a newer version came out looking for drivers! Unfortunately that was one of the sad facts about waiting a full year for Vista updates!
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05 Jun 2013   #1139
theveterans

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
SP 1 there was vital since the older version had to break the 137gb barrier the service pack addressed once drive capacities were on the increase. In fact XP was first looked at on a much smaller 13gb until getting a 120gb drive in back a decade ago! It was most notorious for system locks as well as the endless BSODs while Vista brought in an immediate desktop recovery crash control process as well as not running into all those Blue Screens! ---Once into Vista for a bit it was obviously time for XP to go back in 2007 other then it lingering on since the old version was still needed to run things that wouldn't run in any form on Vista. But in the long run 7 proved a champ once more when the 32bit 7 could run all those old XP apps without a blink! In fact even old AGP and Realtek XP drivers for onboard sound you wouldn't expect to work at all on the 32bit Vista work on the 32bit 7 showing MS made another smart move in backward compatibility over being struck each time a newer version came out looking for drivers! Unfortunately that was one of the sad facts about waiting a full year for Vista updates!
That's very true. On one of the desktops with Pentium 4 Northwood processor, SoundMAX integrated audio drivers won't even run on Vista 32-bit but worked flawlessly on 7. In addition, Dell wireless 1450 usb adapter drivers won't install on Vista yet runs on 7 fine using compatibility mode. This really was a win for 7 in my book.
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05 Jun 2013   #1140
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

When first getting into the 7 RC builds I knew then that the former Vista/XP dual boot had to go! I no longer needed XP to run the things that wouldn't work on Vista at all despite the compatibility mode options and the run as admin all failing. The 32bit 7 prevailed over all. The only problem for me however was I had already decided to replace the 32bit Windows entirely while still wanting to test and examine the results of the 32bit at the time. The old 32bit XP apps wouldn't run namely a few old game titles as well as knowing that 64bit drivers would be in need. 7 still prevailed either way however!
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