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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

07 Jun 2013   #1151
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

A problem here is that world has let MS become the main global PC OS and it impacts business globally. This is serious business!
Given MS is clearly a major Corporation so is it arrogance or the similar Group Think mentality?
I really like Windows 7 but there is an opportunity for a Branson "Virgin Linux" and I'm sure MS would just giggle at their peril.


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07 Jun 2013   #1152
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Not a bad idea.

I am using Ubuntu Unity. It is surprisingly good. You can't run windows programs natively, of course. Most people won't need to - there are Linux programs for just about everything. It is perfect for gran's old laptop. Free - you might want to turn off the shopping search feature. It deserves decent exposure in the market place.

Mark (Shuttleworth) is trying to drum up some interest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLtcj7FdIYA

http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android




Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by x BlueRobot View Post
I'm saving for additional Windows 7 license now, need to stock pile for the future
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08 Jun 2013   #1153
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

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...Vista at all despite the compatibility mode options and the run as admin all failing. The 32bit 7 prevailed over all. The only problem for me however was I had already decided to replace the 32bit Windows entirely while still wanting to test and examine the results of the 32bit at the time. .....
That was my concern back then.....running legacy gear and applications, why buy new when what you already have works? That's why I avoided Vista, however the users over in another one of 'my' forums
at AVScience board have their MyHD/MDP-130s running with the compatibility tab and have already found out that the cards can't run in VM, they need direct access to the machines' I/O. No 64-bit drivers available. They're working fine though under 32 bit W7 but you can invoke the Physical Address Extension in
W7, like you can in 2000, to use all your ram but most of the guys there have just created big ramdisks to
run swap and other functions. I'm still a bit hesitant and learning what I can do in 7, XP Pro is the blood brother of 2000, so I'm wallowing in an all too familiar environment. Sooner or later, if M$ drives us to Linux full-time, then I will have to separate the second MyHD into its' own box and run the XPP that I had nLited, as I did for the bedroom unit, though running in IDE mode, the bedroom unit boots from power-on to desktop with a SSD in eight seconds. Good for those momentary power glitches, so I don't lose a big chunk of the programme. If it is a show important enough, then downloading is an alternative, though the resolution isn't the same.
Well the main thing I was running into with Vista when trying out the compatibility tab was still finding there were going to be things written for XP that simply would not run or even install regardless of that or being run as admin. It wasn't going to happen! Then that was all turned around suddenly when the 32bit 7 came along and the same things would install and run as if I had XP on instead! Instant Success Story!

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I don't even seriously follow-up on this Windows 8 crap any more. I have 3 extra Windows 7 licenses and 1 additional yet unused Office 2010 license (3 users). I think I am covered for the rest of my life. In addition to that both of my desktops and 2 of my laptops are pretty recent. So there is probably no need to replace those soon. Only the wife is backlevel with 2 Vista laptops - but she loves them and would not let me replace them anyhow.
I had to shy away as well from 8 while it is still is on the hot topics list! Hopefully MS will actually work on a desktop version the next time around rather then simply being too focused on promoting their new Surface Tablets for which RT and 8 were geared for from the start with 8 being available for other then Surface tablets. The focus was still the same even while 8 saw destkop releases to have something new for the new desktops and laptops it wasn't a majpr "desktop" release you would expect!

Will MS get back to business and work on a 7 worthwhile replacement version to come? That is the present mystery to be solved!
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08 Jun 2013   #1154
Lone Browncoat

2000Pro,XP SP3 x86..W7 on next build
 
 

What I meant to say was that the capture cards would not run under Vista but they ran fine when 7 became available, Terry Peterson, who posts as TPeterson over there can attest to that.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/797208/myh...w8-main-thread
http://www.avsforum.com/t/797208/myh...#post_22507367
http://www.avsforum.com/t/493691/myh...#post_16414439
http://www.avsforum.com/t/493691/myh...#post_23256419
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09 Jun 2013   #1155
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

I ran into that with a Pinnacle tuner card sometime back I grabbed as a fast substitute when the one I had on an old went suddenly. The software/drivers were all strictly XP and wouldn't run in any form on the 32bit Vista in compatibily mode or other at all. I had already replaced the entire build however before testing on 7 came along to see if the same would work on 7.

The other bigger test besides one expansion card came when the present build suffered a setback with the first board. The first supply cooked it! Believe it or not I still have the board I was going to ship to Gigabyte to see if they could fix it at all and simply ordered a replacement then and last summer found a 3rd for the previous case. While the fast replacement was on order I dumped a fast temp install of the 32bit side of 7 on another older 2003 clunker with a 128mb AGP and pair of 512s one needing to be cleaned and reseated before it would work however.

The OLD NVidia GeForce FX5200 and Realtek onboard audio drivers went to work as they would if XP had been the OS. How often do you hear of Vista taking XP drivers for various hardwares besides a nic card and working? Not too often! This was much like the gap seen in years past of the upgrade resulting in all types of headaches and why businesses are usually much slower at it. They would have to retool(buy all newer versions of softwares) their employees in every aspect!

What 7 shows is that MS as well as any other software company can put together a working success if they want to! But people wouldn't buy newer if the old is "too good" for too long! And most wonder why every other version is a flop? You wouldn't want to jump on what came along later if one OS is too good to pass up on!
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09 Jun 2013   #1156
ascomputers

Windows 7 Professional / Windows 8 Pro
 
 

i installed the following on my office win 8 prodell 9010 AIO

IObit Start Menu 8 Free download, Bring Start Menu back to Windows 8

now i feel much happier with win 8 pro. Although my laptop and my gaming rig are both win 7 pro

also hacked off with the fact that win 8 has no media player? you have to have win 8 pro.
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09 Jun 2013   #1157
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

That's because 8 is a stripped down OS intended mainly for tablet where you wouldn't have tne Media Center or WMP in use at all. It wasn't a full pledged major desktop release to begin with since MS was holding back on seeing the Pro Plus and Enterprise editions released on separate media but only available through the MS store or at either the MSDN or TechNet paid subscriptions sites.

I think this is where most of the main confusion is coming from as far as just what 8 is in the final analysis namely the MS Surface and tablet agenda but still having something available for OEMs to stuff onto new pcs at the same time. But the thing to know is that 8 was never intended for any custom builders despite seeing the OEM disks out. If you want a desktop OS stick with 7. Simple formula!

8 is simply the MS venture into the mobile market and as everyone knows the first on anything MS comes out with is never too good to start off with. The 64bit XP was the more recent example of that followed by the need to remove all but 2gb of memory when going to install the 64bit Vista being another annoyance solved by... 7! once again!
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10 Jun 2013   #1158
Faladu

Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
 
 

Linux would dominate if gaming support was 100%, until that day shows up, not so much.
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10 Jun 2013   #1159
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Faladu View Post
Linux would dominate if gaming support was 100%, until that day shows up, not so much.
I am not a gamer and I never used any game. But I understand that there is pretty good gaming support thru Wine (the Windows 'emulator'). When I installed Wine, most of the default programs that came with it were games.
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10 Jun 2013   #1160
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Well believe it or not some of the major software companies like Steam are already geared or gearing for Linux. Steam is a definite there for making the move to the open source community as a means of opening more doors since Linux has grown in popularity over the years. With Vista getting a bad start and 8 being "something else" they knew it was time to make a move!

Now for Wine I haven't tried that one out still but would seem to best suited for stand alone install type games over any where you have to log into some online account just to run any titles. That would be much like a vm player for the other OS there.
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