Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

I understand the point you are making, as well as many other points that are being made.
MS is not the only company doing this, they are late to the 'game' as usual, others like apple, google and more have been doing this for a while.
I didn't like Internet email when it first came out, but use it now.

There are 'some' aspects of the so called cloud services that are very convenient, syncing my MS accounts so they are the same on my different systems is a time saver.
There are a lot of things I don't like about the direction this is headed, and agree that many will fall into it unknowingly, hope it doesn't go too far.

If this trend goes too far, I will jump ship.
Defining 'too far' will be different for everyone.

Like I have mentioned before, everyone should run the OS they like.
I remember when Windows 7 came out, some people would come here to bash it, most members liked it and tried to help them understand it, but some wouldn't take the time and effort. Some went back to XP or Vista, if that's what they want then it's good for them.

Dave,

I am also not keen on all the surveillance.

Sending back details of the software you download and install is not on.

As far as I know, it goes to MS and a brand protection agency. We have yet to get to the bottom of whatever else is going on - without your knowledge.

There are things going on that we, the users, need to know about, hopefully someone will find a way to confirm them and when exposed give us a way to keep our privacy.
Agree that this is a serious concern.

Hi there

This feature that Ms seems to be pushing more and more will effect Windows 7 users too.
Ms seems to be going towards a "Subscription Base" for its products -- like Office 365.

If you look at Office 2013 -- It's now PERMANENTLY LICENSED to a SINGLE machine -- which means you CANNOT move it to a new machine if you get a new computer.

Office 2010 allows you to do this -- and IMO so should ALL APPLICATION software. - Otherwise it's going backwards back to the bad old DRM days --you have a load of music say on an Ipod --you want a new one -- but you can't copy / move your music to the new device. That business model has been totally discredited and just encouraged piracy big time.

Application software can easily outlive an OS or even the original machine it's installed on so it should be moveable.

(I'm just going on the wording of the licenses of office 2010 and 2013 where the 2013 version specifically mentions PERMANENTLY. As written this means you CAN'T move / transfer Office 2013 to a new machine --Ms hasn't actually confirmed this yet but an answer is expected any time soon).

Hopefully someone experienced in Ms Licensing can confirm or refute the above --please --will be grateful for a definitive answer.

Subscription models are the way Ms is relentlessly pushing us -- but I won't be going down that route.

Cheers
jimbo

Maybe this will prompt OpenOffice, LibreOffice, et al to be even more compatible with MS Office products. And maybe greater compatibility will lead to greater acceptance by individuals and corporations. Just saying . . .

In fact, Pirates and Hackers will see this as a challenge to be overcome.
It will provide them with even more incentive to "stick it to the man".

Unfortunately, you and I (and the other esteemed members of this forum) won't be able to hold back the tide of moronic consumers.

"There's a sucker born every minute." (This phrase is often credited to P.T. Barnum, the actual authorship is unclear).

I agree. It'd be quite troublesome when one gets a new PC.

For me, the metro tiles just don't suit my taste - It's too touch screen oriented (Imagine if you have to scroll right, not scroll down. funny, that feels weird! ). I've tried on a 13 inch notebook using Win8, and it's not comfortable for me lol. But then, it's up to the user choice - as of now, I'm using Windows 8 3rd party theme. Win8 wins me for its simplicity of UI.

I don't mind 8 at all - in fact I don't even have Seven on my sig rig any more.

97% of the time I have nothing to do with Metro. It's just another fancy shortcut screen to me. The lack of Aero I'm over. However the explorer improvements/dialog boxes + other stuff make up for it.

Most of the time it feels like I'm in a skinned and tweaked Seven anyway. The OS itself is fine. It's certainly not perfect and there are a few concerning 'issues', but it's not shit.


The direction MS is heading however, is. Bill needs to come out of retirement.

Good point Google has me tied to all my devices and any device that has my account on it will send it to everything and if it is something for private eyes only google has pretty much taken that away good observation

@Marsimar,

It might.

@ Jimbo,

Yes that is the way they are trying to lead us.

There might be a few situations where some will be better off renting software- they will be held up as examples of how wonderful it is.

Clearly MS is doing this for their own benefit. Therefore overall - it will be more expensive and less flexible for most people.

I agree with you.

Avoid it like the plague.