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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

13 Jul 2013   #1451
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13 Jul 2013   #1452
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

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Images as well as restore points can become corrupted at times. If you rely heavily on images have a spare drive to restore each one to as a test to insure the integrity. They can certainly save on a lot of time over performing a fresh install of everything but I tend to use two options rather then one for each image. (Win Backup, Acronis)
While it's a good idea to run one test the first time one makes an image to make sure the rescue disk/USB stick is working correctly, when using Macrium Reflect to make an image, one can set reflect to verify the image after the image has been made so it's not necessary to separately test every image. I have my installations set to automatically do so every time I make an image. So far, I've had only one fail the verification.

It's also possible to verify the image again just before restoring the image.
With the W7 option you can start the restoration while in Windows. For Acronis you simply boot live from either the software disk or rescue cd made up for the purpose. And if you have a dual boot you can run a restore from the other version.

Here I can start the restoration remotely while on another 7 build using TeamViewer. I don't even have to be sitting at the machine being restored! That can simplify things at times.
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13 Jul 2013   #1453
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi there

I only suggested ignoring the topic of imaging FOR THIS THREAD since it's meant to be about users rejecting W8.

Of course one should regularly back up an OS (and data too) but that belongs in another thread.

Cheers
jimbo
Quite correct
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13 Jul 2013   #1454
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi there

I only suggested ignoring the topic of imaging FOR THIS THREAD since it's meant to be about users rejecting W8.

Of course one should regularly back up an OS (and data too) but that belongs in another thread.

Cheers
jimbo
Quite correct
Obviously! Just don't forget 8 includes the same option started with Vista as far as being able to create images with the Backup&Restore option in the Control Panel. The one thing I found displeasing about 8's options however was the PC Refresh where you no longer can perform an upgrade to repair install you still have for both Vista and 7 without seeing a total wipe.

The PC Refresh does a fresh clean install while still seeing the Windows.old folder for user files. The WET still has a place however for files and settings to be preserved once a new install goes on for 8 plus programs. The sad part about 8 is you end up losing more then gaining if you replace one of the two previous versions as well as the other not so favorable changes seen.
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13 Jul 2013   #1455
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

This discussion shows how important imaging is to users.
Of course MS knows best (giving to middle finger to users once again) and removed it from the W8.1 preview.

Now MS can use their telemetry to "prove" that nobody used that feature anyway.

Quote:
A few features that were in Windows 8 are not in Windows 8.1 at all. Here’s a partial list:
  • The legacy Windows 7 Backup program, which allows you to capture an image backup of your system, is gone. The associated executable file and DLL (Sdclt.exe and Sdcpl.dll, respectively) are gone, as is the Windows Backup service. The opportunity to restore a backup created using that tool is still there, but you can’t create a new image backup of your device running the Windows 8.1 Preview.
ZDNet - Ed Bott
The missing pieces from the Windows 8.1 preview | ZDNet
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13 Jul 2013   #1456
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Well MS wants everybody to start buying 3rd party options for just about anything if not everything you once saw included. You may find a new tile some time for a 3rd party imaging ware offer. That would be the apparent direction they are going.
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13 Jul 2013   #1457
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
Well MS wants everybody to start buying 3rd party options for just about anything if not everything you once saw included. You may find a new tile some time for a 3rd party imaging ware offer. That would be the apparent direction they are going.
Seems believable to me.
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13 Jul 2013   #1458
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

The command line wbadmin.exe version is still there. Not much use to most people.
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13 Jul 2013   #1459
Dallas 7

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
This discussion shows how important imaging is to users.
Of course MS knows best (giving to middle finger to users once again) and removed it from the W8.1 preview.
Now MS can use their telemetry to "prove" that nobody used that feature anyway.

Quote:
A few features that were in Windows 8 are not in Windows 8.1 at all. Here’s a partial list:
  • The legacy Windows 7 Backup program, which allows you to capture an image backup of your system, is gone. The associated executable file and DLL (Sdclt.exe and Sdcpl.dll, respectively) are gone, as is the Windows Backup service. The opportunity to restore a backup created using that tool is still there, but you can’t create a new image backup of your device running the Windows 8.1 Preview.
ZDNet - Ed Bott
The missing pieces from the Windows 8.1 preview | ZDNet

The wonders of W8 just keeps getting more and more unbelievable. ****Shaking head****
I've used Windows 7 built in imaging countless times and I've never had a problem with it.
They just can't destroy enough good things fast enough.
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13 Jul 2013   #1460
Iforgot

Win7 64
 
 

But
Who does backups on a Tablet??????
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