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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

17 Feb 2013   #141
PaulGo

Windows 7 64 SP1
 
 

Another option may eventually be the Google Chrome OS.


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17 Feb 2013   #142
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

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I do believe it will also be designed to catch hacked downloads from torrents.
That is how most of the illegal programs,movies,books,music ect. get passed around the world. I don't think they are worried about you making a copy of a movie as much as they are worried about a 1000 copies of the movie being passed around the world every hour.
Hi there

While not advocating Piracy I'd like to know what possible business is it of Microsoft to check whether I'm downloading Movie torrents -- it's up to the Police (where appropriate) and the COPYRIGHT HOLDERS.

Similarly if I drive a BMW dangerously it's not up to BMW to monitor this but the appropriate competent legal authority / authorities --Highway patrol, local Police, municipal police -if you have them --etc.

Cheers
jimbo
No where in my post did I say or indicate it was Microsoft's right or duty to monitor torrents..
I did absolutely indicate that I don't believe they will leave torrents out of the game plan because it is way most of the above mentioned things get stolen using torrents. I can't remember a time 1000 plus song CD/DVD were stolen from Walmart. Walmart has got people and security equipment to watch for such things.
Now the people who's products via the internet and torrents are being stolen have got their own cop on the block to watch. Microsoft help business, law enforcement and countries to catch and shut down botnets, credit card thief's, internet bank robbers and so on and no body complains about privacy. Well except the robbers they probably complain. If their wasn't so much thievery going on using the internet their would be no need for the big cop on watch. We are talking about billions of dollars every year. Why would anybody think that would go on for ever without anybody trying to figure out a way to stop most of it. So we can thank the people involved for the stealing over the internet for bring this to a head and laying in our laps.
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17 Feb 2013   #143
Superluigi6

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

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It seems Windows 7 is here to stay, wherever Microsoft want Windows 7 to stay or not, Windows 8's UI has become too touchscreen orientated, and I've even struggled to find files and programs Windows 8 due to the metro Start Menu.
I would agree with you too. I personally think that if I install Windows 8 on my non-touchscreen computer I would have to go through stress because my mouse breaks every 10 minutes and this would make it worse.

I tried a preview at Best Buy and disliked it. I like all the stuff I put onto my Windows 7 PC like ObjectBar, a Windows Start button I created, and the login screen I made. I don't think as of now Windows 8 is not much "customizable".
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17 Feb 2013   #144
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

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I still maintain though that a Subscription service is a one way ticket to ever and ever higher prices and less choice for consumers – since if the organisation that is providing the service is HUGE it's almost impossible for anybody else to break into it.
Yes of course you are right.

MS are not doing this to make less money - they are doing it to make more. That money comes from somewhwere - guess where.

You are also correct the barriers to entry are enormous. It is not a level playing field by any stretch of the imagination.

Stevie B is doing a good job for MS keeping it that way. That is what he is supposed to do - it is his job. It is not good for anybody else.
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17 Feb 2013   #145
King Arthur

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

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Another option may eventually be the Google Chrome OS.
While I'm sure Google Chrome OS caters to a specific need that some of us might have, I'm personally not at all fond of software, let alone an entire OS, that relies completely on the cloud for its software and functionality. Relying on the cloud has a single point of failure in the internet connection, and I worry for the security and privacy of any data that would be on the cloud.
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17 Feb 2013   #146
indianacarnie

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by King Arthur View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by PaulGo View Post
Another option may eventually be the Google Chrome OS.
While I'm sure Google Chrome OS caters to a specific need that some of us might have, I'm personally not at all fond of software, let alone an entire OS, that relies completely on the cloud for its software and functionality. Relying on the cloud has a single point of failure in the internet connection, and I worry for the security and privacy of any data that would be on the cloud.
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17 Feb 2013   #147
lehnerus2000

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by King Arthur View Post
Cisco tried to pull a similar "we monitor your data traffic and brick your router at our discretion" bullshit last year with their new "cloud" routers. Not sure if anyone remembers, but if I recall correctly, that brew up such a huge shitstorm all over the internet that Cisco was forced to amend their privacy policies and firmware appropriately.
I remember.

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Haven't even taken a glance at any Cisco hardware since, my trust in them instantly gone since that incident, and if MS decides they really do want to spy at my personal matters in Windows 8 and future versions of Windows then I guess I'll stick with Windows 7/XP for my Win32 needs and seriously consider alternatives like Linux and BSD for the long-term future.
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King, I still haven't updated my router and won't as long as it works. The same goes for windows and windows 8 and yes I am looking at the available Linux options. Depending on what path MS chooses Linux options may get a real boost.
Install VMware Player (or similar software) and try Linux Mint 14.

I've just replaced Ubuntu 10 (64 bit) with Linux Mint 14 (MATE) (64 bit) and IMO it's quite nice.

My Linux Mint 14 (MATE) install ran my Radeon HD6450, my onboard sound card and onboard network out of the box.
It even installed my personal Ubuntu theme without drama.
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Some people like Linux Mint 14 (Cinnamon) but like most Linux Distros, you can choose other desktop environments.

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So we can thank the people involved for the stealing over the internet for bring this to a head and laying in our laps.
I think that is just a convenient excuse, used by Corporations and Governments, to justify monitoring.

Politicians can't help themselves, Governments have always wanted to spy on the populous (and more recently Corporations).

There's always some reason why we have to be supervised by "Our Masters":
  • "We have to spy on everyone, because you are all IP Pirates."
  • "We have to spy on everyone, because you are all Terrorists."
  • "We have to spy on everyone, because you are all Paedophiles."
  • "We have to spy on everyone, because you don't vote for my political party."
  • "We have to spy on everyone, because you don't buy our products."


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17 Feb 2013   #148
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Maybe because you do buy our products and we will make sure you are using them as we intended.
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18 Feb 2013   #149
marsmimar

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 Pro 64-bit
 
 

I think that's the problem. We're not buying the product. Just the right (license) to use it how, when and where MS sees fit.
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18 Feb 2013   #150
jimbo45

W7 X-64 W8.1 X-64 Opensuse 13.1 W2003 Server
 
 

Hi there
"Resistance is Futile......You Will Comply ......You Will be absorbed"...... SevenOfNine a few years ago in Star trek Voyager so the idea is nothing new.

There are ways to avoid though -- but the weak link is that most people have to go through an ISP to get to the internet -- so unless you have a direct satellite connection and maintain your own Internet connection (hideously expensive but theoretically do-able) you could still be controlled via the ISP -- decent encryption is probably the only way to avoid this however and some sort of URL masking so the ISP can't log the sites you've visited.

Cheers
jimbo
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