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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

21 Aug 2013   #1671
Dallas 7

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dreadstar View Post

But in reality, I don't see why people are so Anti-Windows 8. I've said it once, and I'll say it again, IF you do not like change, DON'T UPGRADE.
Dread we've said it before and we'll say it again, we do not dislike change, we dislike change for the worse.

Taking a perfectly good desktop OS and perverting it to look and work like a tablet/phone OS is a change for the worse, which is not an upgrade, it's a downgrade.
The fact that most businesses have rejected W8 in favor of W7 should tell you something.

The UI is not only ugly, but was clearly designed and optimized for touchscreen use, which is anti desktop by nature. How many people want to smear up their 22-26 inch monitor screens with greasy grimy fingerprints, while tiring their shoulders by wiping and swiping with their arms up in the air?

If you're into tablets and phones, W8 is probably a change for the better.
If you're into desktops, W8 is a change for the worse.


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21 Aug 2013   #1672
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Change != Improvement

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dreadstar View Post
But in reality, I don't see why people are so Anti-Windows 8. I've said it once, and I'll say it again, IF you do not like change, DON'T UPGRADE. I'm not trying to rag on you, or be-little you, I'm just saying I don't understand it. Windows 8 was like a godsend to me, I'm tired of the same old look of Windows. Windows 98 - 7 have the same style. Windows 8 was new, and different, I enjoy the challenge it gives. I guess not everyone likes puzzles as much as I do
A lot of people don't consider a "fresh coat of paint" and a random shuffling of features, files and tools to be an improvement.

Metro's a change, but it's NOT an improvement.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bobafetthotmail View Post
That's the same thing that pisses me off in Ubuntu and its dash screen.
Hell, if I need to know and remeber the name of all the programs I have installed I might as well pull them up by command line and bypass all this GUI bs. DOS (and linux terminal) all the way, you hipster kiddies!
Agreed 100%.
Unity is awful (at least you don't have to leave the desktop if the item you want is on the bar though).

Unity is why I swapped from Ubuntu 10 to Linux Mint 14 MATE.
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21 Aug 2013   #1673
Lee

Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11
 
 

Here's a question, please be truthful in your answer: "Has anyone who has posted on this thread actually read all 1671 replies on this posting?"
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21 Aug 2013   #1674
Boozad

W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lee View Post
Here's a question, please be truthful in your answer: "Has anyone who has posted on this thread actually read all 1671 replies on this posting?"
Yep. Honestly.
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21 Aug 2013   #1675
PaulGo

Windows 10 (64 bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lee View Post
Here's a question, please be truthful in your answer: "Has anyone who has posted on this thread actually read all 1671 replies on this posting?"
I have. As a plus I've learned a lot about Linux.
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21 Aug 2013   #1676
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wrend View Post
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I just don't see what the fuss is all about I use the machine just as I did before only now it is ten times faster!
What kind of crazy computer are you using that runs things 10x faster with Windows 8?!

At least lets have an honest discussion here...

If it ran what I run using Windows 7 10x faster I would update with blatant disregard for my GUI preferences, even if it was ugly and annoying as sin. LOL
The machine is a three nearly four year old Toshiba L550 Satellite Pro with an i5 430 @2.27GHz 8GB 1333 and a SanDisk Extreme SSD.
I have no explanation as to why it runs as fast as it just does and also why the Sandy Bridge runs faster but not as fast as this machine.
I am not saying 8 is better than 7 in fact I do most of my posting in 7 just that the machine runs faster and I can access both forums as normal
Now I think I mentioned somewhere if not in this thread there are a few things that are niggling like the msconfig for the Optimisation it no longer has that nice Startup tab settings it uses a set up called in through the Task manager which I find tedious and frankly convoluted and the back up in control panel is now File History - mind you I think it updates the backup on the USB stick from time to time - auto but I stand to be corrected.
But truly all in all I really don't know what the problem is all I can say if you don't like it then don't sit there and grizzle about it no one is forcing anyone to use it eh? - or are they??

Now to give you exact figures the 7 on the same set up ran power to desktop in 40-42 secs (including login) and shut down around 32 secs if I remember right. The 8 and don't forget it has all my 7 settings carried across not just the 8 gets to desktop in 8-9 secs including login - one has to sit there ready to quickly type course and the shut down is just about instantaneous and that is sometimes with the email pulled up and perhaps several tabs still open.
Ten times faster perhaps I was using a bit of poetic licence but I think you can see from the figures it seems that way
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22 Aug 2013   #1677
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Lee, I can't honestly say I've read every one, I may have missed a few, but I have read 95% of them at least. I've tried every CP, RC and have Windows 8 Pro installed on a laptop. There is no one that can objectively use it and deny it was designed for a Phone and Tablet then ported to a desktop. That never has not and never will work. The devices are used for different purposes and need different Operating Systems. No matter what Steve Ballmer thinks, this is not a one size fits all world. Windows 8 is not a productivity system. Yes, I can do most of the same things with 8 I can do with 7, it just takes longer and is more difficult. I further resent Microsoft trying to tie everything you do to the Windows Live system and Skydrive. And just for another thought, why would they have some laptop manufacturers make it so that you can't go back to 7 or any other OS? Might it be that they knew it was not going to be well received and were trying to force everyone they could to continue using it? I'm not too sure about others, but I will not be forced to use any OS, or Skydrive either, and I resent the heck out of them for trying it. Windows 8 is not an improvement over 7. It is a tablet OS ported to the desktop environment, and will never work well as such. Apple would be proud.
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22 Aug 2013   #1678
Dallas 7

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Lee, I can't honestly say I've read every one, I may have missed a few, but I have read 95% of them at least. I've tried every CP, RC and have Windows 8 Pro installed on a laptop. There is no one that can objectively use it and deny it was designed for a Phone and Tablet then ported to a desktop. That never has not and never will work. The devices are used for different purposes and need different Operating Systems. No matter what Steve Ballmer thinks, this is not a one size fits all world. Windows 8 is not a productivity system. Yes, I can do most of the same things with 8 I can do with 7, it just takes longer and is more difficult. I further resent Microsoft trying to tie everything you do to the Windows Live system and Skydrive. And just for another thought, why would they have some laptop manufacturers make it so that you can't go back to 7 or any other OS? Might it be that they knew it was not going to be well received and were trying to force everyone they could to continue using it? I'm not too sure about others, but I will not be forced to use any OS, or Skydrive either, and I resent the heck out of them for trying it. Windows 8 is not an improvement over 7. It is a tablet OS ported to the desktop environment, and will never work well as such. Apple would be proud.
Essenbe I totally agree, especially with the highlighted statement. For a desktop, W8 is clearly an inferior product and like you, I will not be force fed M$'s "one size fits all" compromised OS.
And like you, I also resent M$'s "Our way or the highway" attitude about W8.

If it comes down to "their way or the highway," I'll take the "highway".
Meantime I'll stay with W7 till M$ comes to their senses.
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22 Aug 2013   #1679
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lee View Post
Here's a question, please be truthful in your answer: "Has anyone who has posted on this thread actually read all 1671 replies on this posting?"
Yes. Of course, I started reading the thread from its day one; I didn't read it all in one sitting (yikes!).
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22 Aug 2013   #1680
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
... this is not a one size fits all world...
Anyone who thinks it is should have to live life as a plus size woman trying to find clothes that fit!
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