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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

24 Aug 2013   #1741
PaulGo

Windows 10 (64 bit)
 
 

Although pretty good I have found that Windows driver selection is not perfect. Sometime Windows wants to install an older driver of it will not identify the hardware properly and install an incorrect driver.


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24 Aug 2013   #1742
HammerHead

win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1
 
 
Driver Installation

Win 7, although not perfect is the best available. I find it the best ver MS has ever put out.
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25 Aug 2013   #1743
chamjiee

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Dual Boot with Windows Serve 2012 R2
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Why would you install the drivers on a driver-complete OS? This isn't XP.

Win7 delivers the drivers it wants via the installer, quicking updated via Windows Updates. They spent about a billion dollars on this, one of the things they got almost perfect in Win7.
Factory drivers are necessary. e.g I have ati radeon card and windows although did installed the drivers automatically by it lacked the ati converter and a host of other features like profiles and the ability to overclock. Etc etc
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25 Aug 2013   #1744
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chamjiee View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Why would you install the drivers on a driver-complete OS? This isn't XP.

Win7 delivers the drivers it wants via the installer, quicking updated via Windows Updates. They spent about a billion dollars on this, one of the things they got almost perfect in Win7.
Factory drivers are necessary. e.g I have ati radeon card and windows although did installed the drivers automatically by it lacked the ati converter and a host of other features like profiles and the ability to overclock. Etc etc
Did you enable Automatically deliver drivers via Windows Update (Step 3) and run all rounds of Important and Optional Windows Updates to completion? Only after all Updates are installed will you really know what drivers are not provided. There are rarely more than one or two.

Factory drivers are also delivered by Windows Update in Win7. This is a major improvement in Win7. When a driver is delivered this way you know it has been vetted and is what Win7 wants.

The mistakes are no more than with other Windows Updates - about one in a million.
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25 Aug 2013   #1745
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

I'd caution the use of Windows delivered graphics card drivers. After one bad experience I'd recommend going to the manufacturer's website. In my case it is NVidia. I also prefer manual updates to my printer drivers. So I select automatically notify but let me select.
Generally speaking though Windows 7 appears quite good at getting you the drivers you need.
I'd also recommend making an image before installing a major driver like a graphics driver and not rely on a system restore.
Just my opinion though.

As a slight aside - I have been led to believe that it is best to turn system protection off when using SSDs.
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25 Aug 2013   #1746
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
...I'd also recommend making an image before installing a major driver like a graphics driver and not rely on a system restore...
X2 on that. I've found system restore to be unreliable whereas I've never had a verified image fail to restore for me.
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25 Aug 2013   #1747
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

System restore is a program intended to restore to particular point in time. To do that it uses part of a shadow copy, and deletes new files.

Shadow copies are images. One the great things MS has done. The system restore program has it's quirks, but you can always restore a shadow copy, or bits of it yourself.
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25 Aug 2013   #1748
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HammerHead View Post
How about drivers for a lighted steel series keyboard. Three different colors plus different arrangements for lighting. I am not going to get it out now and go through it for you. Take my word for it. There is some drivers that Win 7 was not prepared to deliver.
Well spoken! After countless 7 installs on different machines you'll always find some you have to go back to the manufacturer's support site for. That list will often include Wi-Fi drivers as well as ones for the touchpad for instance the 8 laptop one friend bought off of someone else when the touchpad as well as 8 didn't work out for the bought new model.

When looking into what support that laptop had the Toshiba site also saw 7 x64 drivers showing they had the option for the 64bit 7 on that particular model with 6gb of ram. Likewise other then what comes included with OEMs as far as the prepackaged hardwares you often need to look things up for addons like a fancy external keyboard, printer, or printer/scanner etc. since not all drivers are found through Windows updates!

Since Vista days Dell has offered new systems with the choice of OS so you know they will be keeping the driver sets for XP(usually older model at this point) and up available depending on how new or old any model is. The newest would certainly be seeing 7 and likely but not always Vista support.
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26 Aug 2013   #1749
pippin

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
I'd caution the use of Windows delivered graphics card drivers. After one bad experience I'd recommend going to the manufacturer's website. In my case it is NVidia. I also prefer manual updates to my printer drivers. So I select automatically notify but let me select.
Generally speaking though Windows 7 appears quite good at getting you the drivers you need.
I'd also recommend making an image before installing a major driver like a graphics driver and not rely on a system restore.
Just my opinion though.

As a slight aside - I have been led to believe that it is best to turn system protection off when using SSDs.

I also had a bad experience while using Windows to update my drivers automatically. It messed up my NIC card by changing companies. I had Realtek prior that but once it updated it changed to Centrino. At the time it happened I didn't know it because it was automatic. And I'm not at all savvy when it comes to understanding wireless networking.

Anyway all of a sudden I started getting dropped from my Internet service constantly. I would get pop up messages that I didn't understand. The lease time went from 3 days to 2 hours and at the end of that 2 hours I would get dropped - eventually I could get back on but most it would take up to 10 minutes sometimes unless I manually changed adapter settings from automatic gateway, ip address, dns server, etc. to specific numbers. back and forth - this went on for months. I called ISP they didn't know squat....Eventually it stopped dropping me when the lease was up and it renewed the lease automatically but I still don't understand why it did that..
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26 Aug 2013   #1750
Windows Boy

Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit
 
 

My problem with upgrading to W8 is the fact the I don't know if I'm going to like it. It would suck to shell out 120 dollars and find out I absolutely dread it and prefer the OS I have been using for so many years. I sort of solved my problem though. I like LOVE the design of the Windows 8, but like the way W7 works better, so I just downloaded a system theme to make it look like Windows 8, then changed the authui.dll and basebrd.dll to ones that resemble the W8 login screen. Changed the mouse icons, system sounds and a few other tiny things, and I'm completely satisfied with my OS now. My problem is my dumpy computer lol
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